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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2011,05:47)Quote (abe @ Dec. 26 2011,00:56)Hi Gene,     Jn. 8:58     Jesus said to them, ” Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am.”That's right.  Or, properly translated into the English language:“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I have been.”Similar to the way the same words are usua…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,     Jn. 8:58     Jesus said to them, ” Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am.”

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2011,13:52)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 22 2011,07:11)I John 1:1-3That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life—2 the life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and testify to it and proclaim to you t…[Read more]

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    Nu.23:19 ” God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

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