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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 10 2013,06:30)Mike……….What i believe is God Makes His Angel's Spirits (the spirits, they have in them), and then sends them out to minister. This can also apply to human beings,  God put his Spirits “IN” them also, Which makes his ministers like flames of Fire (powerful Judges) another words. What i said about the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2013,17:58)Well Kerwin,Are angels “beings”?  Of course.  Even Gene acknowledges this.So what then, COULD it possibly mean to say “angels are spirits”?I'm open for suggestions.  Gene believes it means that angels HAVE ministering spirits IN them………. but that thought is surely not in the text.What do YOU think Pa…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,11:38)Quote (jammin @ May 09 2013,19:57)kerwin,read the bible and stop commenting non sense. talk if your words have sense.Jammin,There are Trinitarians that realize the Trinitarian heresy is irrational and so they call it a mystery.Hi Kerwin,Acts17:16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (942767 @ May 09 2013,09:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2013,10:23)Marty?Hi Mike:One judge was called “a judge”.And Jesus stated:Quote Jhn 10:33   The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.   Jhn 10:34   Jesus answered them, Is it not written in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 09 2013,06:48)Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,22:47)Abe,Quote “At that time”    At Jesus Baptism?  Or after his death?The Messianic age, also known as the thousand years, would fulfill that prophecy best.Kerwin……..I agree with that assement also. peace and love to you and yours…………………..geneHi Gene and Kerw…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 09 2013,04:28)Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,21:20)Res, I am being confrontational?Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2013,17:42)Abe……..That scripture is still not Saying Satan is a Angel of any Kind, no matter what “IT”, (that kind of Spirt), is “desguised” as. The words used there in my bible is “TRANSFORMS HIMSELF “AS”, an Angel of Light”. that no way says he “IS” that, or an angel of any kind.. I ask Mike for one Sctipture…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2013,14:39)Abe,Why so silent all of a sudden?  Okay, I get it.  You like Gene and don't want to speak against him.  But if you consider him a friend and brother, then don't you owe it to him to tell the truth?Abe, do you believe Satan is/was an angel of Jehovah?Hi Mike,Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2013,09:52)There is no…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2013,13:44)Abe,I asked (twice now) if the seven spirits of God are PERSONS, with their own minds and wills.Please answer the question.Hi Mike,Why do you have to ADD to the Scriptures? I don't SEE the word Person? Deal with your OWN Demons.Peace.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2013,17:42)Quote (abe @ May 04 2013,23:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2013,20:31)Quote (abe @ May 04 2013,12:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 04 2013,07:18)To All……….God was not speaking to his angles at all, they have no creative ability, but he was speaking to the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD which are before the Throne of…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ May 06 2013,19:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2013,22:03)Quote (Lightenup @ May 06 2013,20:53)The eternal son is what I want you to disprove…………….Shouldn't you first PROVE there IS such a thing as an “eternal son”?   ???Doesn't the word “son”, in and of itself, imply a BEGINNING?  It should.  And if it doesn't in your mi…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ May 06 2013,21:00)Quote (abe @ May 07 2013,17:54)Quote (2besee @ May 06 2013,20:05)Quote (Wakeup @ May 07 2013,02:37) 2Besee.1.Why is Gogand magog destroyed by fire from heaven from God??2.What about Jesus coming with the sword in his mouth?3. Well who is going to do the warring here? God/or Jesus?You; and most others have got…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ May 06 2013,20:05)Quote (Wakeup @ May 07 2013,02:37) 2Besee.1.Why is Gogand magog destroyed by fire from heaven from God??2.What about Jesus coming with the sword in his mouth?3. Well who is going to do the warring here? God/or Jesus?You; and most others have got themselves tangled up in a knot here also.Gog and magog is not the…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (4Thomas @ May 05 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2013,10:49)And this one:1 Samuel 9:16 NET“At this time tomorrow I will send to you a man from the land of Benjamin. You must consecrate him as a leader over my people Israel. He will save my people from the hand of the Philistines.Scripture teaches that Jesus is THE saviour.So you t…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2013,11:50)Quote (abe @ May 04 2013,20:03)Quote (Lightenup @ May 04 2013,16:00)How many saviors can you find that are saviors of our sin?? Do you think that might be what Jehovah means by stating that He is our only Savior?Hi LU,2Tim.1:8   Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me (Paul) His…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ May 04 2013,21:39)Quote (abe @ May 05 2013,07:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 04 2013,07:18)To All……….God was not speaking to his angles at all, they have no creative ability, but he was speaking to the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD which are before the Throne of The LORD “YAHWEH” who is our God, he used those SEVEN SPIRITS to create…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2013,20:31)Quote (abe @ May 04 2013,12:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 04 2013,07:18)To All……….God was not speaking to his angles at all, they have no creative ability, but he was speaking to the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD which are before the Throne of The LORD “YAHWEH” who is our God, he used those SEVEN SPIRITS to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2013,20:08)Before we continue trying to decipher Paul's sometimes poetic wording, let's get to the bottom of this:Do we all agree that “Satan” is a real, live, spirit BEING – an angel of Jehovah who rebelled against his God and Creator?According to the clear testimony of scripture, Satan and his demons are actual BEINGS.…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ May 04 2013,16:00)How many saviors can you find that are saviors of our sin?? Do you think that might be what Jehovah means by stating that He is our only Savior?Hi LU,2Tim.1:8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me (Paul) His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the…[Read more]

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    abe replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 6 months ago

    Hi 4Thomas,Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD ; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR.Wow is scripture trying to tell us something here??? Maybe Isa 43:11 was a fluke where else does it reveal that God alone is saviour, I still don’t believe…..Is.19:19 In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to…[Read more]

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