Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 10 2005,03:53)You might be onto something WhiteMateria. I'm in the top 5 for total posts but have lost editing “privilages”. Apparently i dont fall within t8's definition of a “dedicated” member. Hmmm.I suspect you may get them back if your postings are in agreement with the admins here and you may not get them back if it…[Read more]

Jhn 5:23 KJV NIVThat all should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.Isa 42:8 KJV NIVI the LORD: that my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.To accept and believe what Jesus says as truth one cannot see Jesus as…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 09 2005,06:42)Go ahead my friend. It's just that I have not found your points to be reasonable. I gave you a good reply, but instead of using scripture to point out any possible errors in my reply you just said 'rubbish', which is not going to convince me or anyone else here of what you are teaching.Show the error in my replies if…[Read more]

Jesus once said that a man cannot have 2 masters…Jesus also once said to follow meCan a man have 2 masters?Can a man follow Jesus and YHWH?A child understands the following…God said he was the only savior. The early Christians also call Jesus Christ their savior.The bible is quite clear who is the true savior.God said he was the only true…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 09 2005,06:20)To WhiteMateria, You seem to have lost the plot with your last post. I am not sure where you are coming from. You seem confused and now have retorted to acusation rather than providing a reasonable argument of points. I will leave you to it and I pray that God will take away whatever is blinding you in order for you…[Read more]

Simply put none of these other prophets were called saviors.Jesus humbled himself while on Earth so that he may be obdient even unto death. Yet the disciples figured out who he really was. Thomas exclaimed “My Lord and My God” and Jesus said to him that because he saw he believed but blessed are those who have not seen and believe.Many may be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 09 2005,05:43)To WhiteMateria, Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 10 2005,00:05)That there are errors and conterdictions in the Bible.I actually said that no translation is perfect.Translation has a different meaning to scripture. Try dictionary.com if you are unsure of the difference.Quote Even those who believe in the Trinity believe…[Read more]

Quote (mommyedie @ May 03 2005,13:55)I enjoyed your 12 part thesis on the Father being God, and Jesus being “lesser”. But you brought up a scripture to which I would ask, are women “lesser” than men? In your own paper, you compare the headship of Christ and God to that of man and woman. Also…please explain the reason Jesus said these…If you've…[Read more]

If you should find a local Kingdom Hall in your area this should be right up your ally. The 'Jehovah Witnesses' are a large group of folk who will deny the Trinity left, right, up and down.

I'm going to give you a time machine. I would like you to travel back in time to the days when Jesus Christ was alive. I would like for you to witness to the Jews who became his disciples BEFORE they became his disciples.”Hey Peter… I represent church so and so. Now I know you are a devout Jew and all but I've come to bring you a message. Do…[Read more]

Point 1: I've shown where the versions change from NIV to KJV the first time and it seems to have brought out that which you have just admitted. That there are errors and conterdictions in the Bible. Thank you for making my point for me.Point 2: I've also address scripture that show that God (YHWH) and not Jesus Christ has been seen by man.…[Read more]

Have you ever talked to a Jehovah's Witness? They are FIRM FIRM believers that YHWH and Jesus Christ are in fact 2 seperate dieties. I would like you to take a look at two verses first within the King James Bible and next within the 'New World Translation'. Even their own Bible shows that YHWH is Jesus.Isaiah 43:11 (KJV) I, I, the LORD; and…[Read more]

Added commentary:You know you are in trouble when even getting to Heaven is not in harmony with itself.The common Christian belief in many cases is that you are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Lets find out what the Bible has to say about Salvation…Baptismal Regeneration: (the doctrine that teaches baptism saves you as many Churches of…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ July 09 2005,00:09)I still do not understand. Have you rejected Christ?When was the last time you saw a non-Christian attend Church and put his/her heart into it. I stopped attending Church for the right reasons son. I went to hang out with friends, not for true worship so I stopped going. A person should not just 'show face' to…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ July 08 2005,23:04)Whitemateria,Can you clarify this statement:Quote I will also say that I used to be a Christian so I understand the Christian mindset.Thank You!Yes I can clarify. I was once a Christian myself so I understand how Christians think. I could not say that if I had never been one. In fact I have been a Christian far…[Read more]

Part 2c: The confusion of the following scriptures.1 Corinthians 8:5-6 (English-NIV)Compare with…John 20:28 (English-NIV)Question: Did Jesus then say to Thomas… 'No Thomas you are in error with that statement!' or did he go on to say, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2005,05:33)Hi M, We have to search and research the Word to show what God has told us through Christ-that scripture cannot be broken. Jesus told us it is truth and we are told to consecrate ourselves to truth. If we seek the help of the Spirit who wrote it through men God will reveal all it's beauty to us. We do not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2005,05:13)Hi, Are you searching for truth? Do you fear God and love the Word? you can learn if you are.It should be fairly obvious there are questions as I go. Do you ever question the Bible and its teachings/verses? Do you ever question the 'ideas' others seem to have concerning God? This is a critical look at one…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2005,04:58)Hi, Where was God when Jesus was on earth? Jesus said to pray ” Our Father, who art in heaven..”Yet he also said “if you have seen me you have seen the Father”Scripture also says” God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself”It also says “God is at work in YOU to will and to do”Men have seen some…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2005,04:48)Hi, No man has seen Godbecause God is Spirit.Is this how the verse appears in your Bible?11. … they surely did not see God for Nick Hassan has said that God is Spirit …Well Nick Hasan what does the Bible really say?Moving on now…Part 2b: The confusion of the following scriptures.John 17:3…[Read more]