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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2012,03:40)Hi WIT,The bible was written to bring us understanding of God.The mechanics of the cosmos is not what the bible is about.On the contrary, Genesis 1 is all about the cosmos.  Why spend the very first chapter of the bible describing the construction of the cosmos if we're not supposed to pay any attention to it?If…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Ed J,My understanding of Hebrew is not under scrutiny here.  I did not translate these verses.Are you calling into question the scholars who translated these passages?Are you claiming to have a better translation than what they provided?If so, please enlighten us with Ed J's proper translation of Genesis 1.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Yes, Ed, and the Titanic wasn't sinking.  It was merely overcome by circumstances. :D It's really simple, Ed.The bible says that God set the sun and the moon in the firmament, which you have for several posts now identified as the earth's atmosphere.  Yet, you say that the sun and the moon were never in the firmament.I understand that you're not g…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Ed J,Thanks for confirming that the bible is wrong on these points.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,05:06)If you know what YOU'RE talking about, then answer my points.  If you don't know, then I fear you are a fool for defending something you can't even explain to a layman of above average intelligence.For someone with “above average intelligence”, you have demonstrated a surprising inability to recognize the…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,04:59)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 09 2012,11:59)Unless you think of the sky/firmament as a solid dome through which rain falls when holes are opened up, this passage makes absolutely no sense.In other words, the bible is demonstrably wrong.Job 26:7He stretches out the north over empty space and hangs the earth on…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,04:41)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 10 2012,09:25)Your waffling Ed.If the firmament is the entire atmosphere, where are “the waters which were  above the firmament“?Is the water in the firmament or above it?Hi WIT,In it, above it and below it.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou are really having…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Your waffling Ed.If the firmament is the entire atmosphere, where are “the waters which were above the firmament“?Is the water in the firmament or above it?

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,01:28)Hi WIT,Clouds generally have an altitude of between 6,000 and 20,000 feet. I would say 6,000 feet is a separation, wouldn't you?That's almost a mile, you know, WIT.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSo, the “firmament” is the space between the surface of the earth and the bottom of the…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Ed J,Nice try, but you skipped over the most important point.Quote Again, consider one simple question:In what way does the “firmament” separate the water above from the water below?Don't dodge the question.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,21:39)Hi WIT,Don't you want to know what happened on day one first?OK, on day 2, God created the atmosphere on planet Earth.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWow.  That was fast.So you admit that the bible has it wrong?Here's what the bible says:Quote Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 10 months ago

    Tim,You might want to translate that 20 degs Fahrenheit into Celsius for Stu. In godless NZ, they don't know that the Queen's Imperial measuring system is still God's chosen standard.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,10:04)With that being understood most of the mumbo jumbo is cleared upThat's pretty much the opposite of what I got out of your post, but please do carry on.  I am sure that your insight is helping someone.

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    terraricca,The opening post was satire. I don't believe in a god mother.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,07:28)Which part of evolution?  The part where life just happened out of thin air?  Or the part where that first life also thought ahead and made sure it MADE ITSELF with reproductive capabilities?Or is the part where for some reason, a fish crawled out of the sea to become a cactus – for no apparent reason?WIT, t…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,04:02)Hi WIT,The bible says that the Earth was created in 6 days, but it does not say how long ago this was.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPerfect!What happened on Day 2?

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Ed J,OK.  Let's start with “creation”.  What do you believe the bible says about “creation”?  Are you a “young earth” creationist?  A “God used evolution” creationist?  Which way have you tried to reconcile Genesis with reality?(I only ask because it is obvious that Christians can't even agree on this, despite the “divine” revelation in the bibl…

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,02:38)Hi WIT,So if evolution was proven wrong tomorrow, why would your belief not change?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgBecause my worldview isn't dependent on it.  Any religion based on the bible would still be wrong, because the bible is demonstrably wrong.

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2012,01:55)what this could mean is that you can or can not understand it and still believe in it,or are you standing on a saddle between that understanding??PierreWhy do you assume that I must “believe in” evolution simply because I am not religious?  If evolution were discredited tomorrow, my worldview would be…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,14:12)Hi WIT,I would say with the advent of powerful nuclear bombs that are capable of mutual assured distraction war has indeed diminished in the civilized world. But muslim countries that still practice slavery would not hesitate to use the bomb.So it depends where you live in the world!God blessEd JAnd now we come…[Read more]

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