Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2012,04:38)God gave man dominion over women.  He ALSO gave man dominion over the beasts of the field.  But does that equate women with dogs, sheep, cows and doves?    If so, I surely don't see how.OK.  I can see that your reading comprehension needs some work.I said that you put them on the same “playing field”.  Ess…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2012,03:35)Hi WIT,The point is you failed to show any errors, but you are welcome to keep trying.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThanks, but I am pretty sure that I nailed it the first time.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2012,02:12)Is training your dog to obey his master wrong?  Just because you are looking at this from TODAY'S “women's rights” perspective doesn't mean that's what God had intended.God gave MAN complete rule over every animal He created, and also over woman – who was created, not as man's equal, but as a helper to man.I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2012,01:59)I thought you guys were looking for scriptures that commanded me PERSONALLY to do an act of violence, or own a slave, etc.I don't see how Tim's post “perfectly illustrated” that at all.No, that's what you wanted us to look for.  It was a diversionary tactic that had nothing to do with the original point that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2012,01:55)Hi WIT,You re-addressed “ALL” eleven points?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThe key word in your question is “re-addressed”.What I have already written need not be re-explained.  If you don't understand it – or more charitably, if you don't agree with it – that's fine.  I can't p…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2012,01:08)Hi WIT,Are you going to re-address the 11 counter-points that I have made to your argument in this post?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI already did, Ed.

Quote (princess @ Jan. 20 2012,23:11)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 21 2012,01:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2012,03:46)Why WIT?  Because YOU say it's “bad”?  Is sexism bad, Mike?  If not, please explain how it makes ethical or moral sense to automatically favor a man over a woman.I know the answer to this WIT, have had this discussion with Mike be…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 20 2012,19:08)To all,God commanded “Thou shalt not kill.”But He wasn't talking to me personally….This is Mike's excuse for not obeying the bible.Perfectly illustrated!  Nice job.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2012,03:46)Why WIT?  Because YOU say it's “bad”?  Is sexism bad, Mike?  If not, please explain how it makes ethical or moral sense to automatically favor a man over a woman.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2012,01:30)(The women speaking in church doesn't apply to me, because I don't go to a church.  The Jehovah's Witnesses probably come the closest to how I understand scriptures, and if it weren't for a couple key issues, I would join that organization.  And they DON'T let the women speak before the congregation.  And wh…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2012,23:15)Can you see the Sun at night? so what does visibility of the sun have to do with the sun being present?Here's the actual issue that I brought up:How is there day and night with no visible sun?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2012,23:13)I am just saying that Slavery just like violence while you may not like it does not mean there is not good purpose for it. You simply assume things you dislike are bad and things you like are good, right?It has nothing to do with what I like.  It has to do with ethics, and there is no ethical argument that…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 19 2012,21:53)WIT,I think that Mike is stuck on the fact that nothing said in the bible applies to him, only what God has specifically said to him which no one else has heard.TimI know, and I think your point about 2 Timothy 3:16-17 is dead on.He's basically turned the bible into something that doesn't instruct him to do…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2012,17:24)WIT, what is true is that the Genesis record is often confused with let there be light as the creation of the sun.But preceding text states that God had already created the Heavens and Earth and that the Earth was in darkness.Let there be light in this case is likely not creation of the sun as that is part of the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2012,08:39)Hi WIT,You don't like discoursing with me about the bible, because I “solidly” refute the ludicrous claims you make against it!Se here we go again. What I said was: “told us about“.Do you really think 'YOUR DOUBTS' are going to sway anyone's faith toward atheism?WIT, you have 'FAILED' MISERABLY' to prove any of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2012,06:00)Actually slavery was temporary in most cases so you are wrong there.Leviticus 25:44-46And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves.  Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and th…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2012,05:18)Okay guys, put up or shut up.WHEN DID GOD SPECIFICALLY TELL ME, A 47 YEAR OLD MAN LIVING IN THE USA, TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS?List the scripture that would apply to ME.  (ONE scripture at a time, please.)Do you permit women to speak in your church?  Do you permit them to teach, in any way?  Or, do you, as th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2012,03:38)so you agree that it is not all who call on the name of the Lord that are true Believers ?as scriptures saysPierreYes, to the same extent that there are no true scotsman.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2012,02:25)Now let the record reflect if you agree that children should be able to do whatever they feel.Spouses should be able to do whatever they feel and workers should do whatever they feelDid you ignore the whole “you can't beat your child to death, etc” point?  You completely failed to address it.In any case,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2012,02:20)Hey All,Thanks for your posts.  Everything each of you wrote is a slice of HISTORY, as recorded in the Bible.I will ask each of you the following questions, and if the answer is YES to any of them, I will look deeper into it.  If the answers are all NO, then my involvement in this discussion is over….If a…[Read more]