Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,14:49)Daniel 2:37-40Daniel 2:41-43 is in progress right now as we speak, soon to be fulfilled.If you read on, it will reveal who these kingdom's are up to a certain point. They agree perfectly with history.You keep saying that these prophecies agree perfectly with history but you haven't even said what historical…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,05:15)I only gave a few scriptures, for if I gave them all at once, this would turn into a 20 page reply.  If I give you my own words, you will say I am making it up.  Have to go slow.I'm not asking for all the details.  I am asking for one specific event, and a time frame.   Otherwise, you are just giving vague hor…[Read more]

Ed J,I completely misread Exodus 12:49.  Now that I reread it, it is clearly a flat-out contradiction of Leviticus 25:39-46.  In the Leviticus passage, the law explicitly establishes different rules for those who “homeborn” versus those who are “strangers”.Leviticus 25:39:”And if one of your brethren who dwells by you becomes poor, and sells h…[Read more]

Quote (annie @ June 06 2012,02:07)Therefore, yes, all slavery is obviously wrong in GOD's eyes, the slavery that went on in the US before the civil war as well as the slavery that goes on still today. Except for the slavery that benefited the Hebrews.  Is that correct?

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,00:11)“One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.” (Exodus 12:49)Ex.12:49 means that someone can buy their freedom as well.Is that your way of admitting that the Romans passage is in fact irrelevant here?

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,23:46)And God put down the rules,to look after them and to treat them right.There should not be any slaves in Gods eyes,but since men has created them,God simply put down the rules,to look after them.My mistake.  I read Romans 7:12 – (“…the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. – and got the…[Read more]

Ed,Your ability to comprehend basic arguments is as questionable as ever.Let me make it simple for you.  Is Leviticus 19:18 in conflict with Leviticus 25:44-46?If not, then your Romans passage is irrelevant.Thanks for playing!

Quote (journey42 @ June 05 2012,17:35)Who is the modern day king of Babylon?And who is “that nation”Can you see what the scriptures are saying here?but before all this happens, another event must come first, the one we are looking out for.  It is very close.You said that you could tell me events in detail.  So far, you are asking me to guess the a…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2012,21:12)Whatistrue.Jesus said that our neighbour we must love,and therefore slavery is bad in Gods eyes….But we could not care less about God,we have been doing it our way,and therefore came all the slaves,killings,divorce and contraception.wakeup.Sorry, my friend, but you are flat out wrong.Leviticus 25:39-46:‘And i…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ June 05 2012,07:40)Interesting. Notice the title of the graph?It is speaking of casualties. With most engagements, since and besides WW2 and the several wars of the 50's – 60's, the trend has been one of “management”. Civilian casualties are frowned upon and armies must, for fear of foreign intervention/public opinion, manage…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ June 01 2012,19:28)We must be living in different realities. Wars are raging more than ever before … .Yes, we are living in different realities.  I am looking at the facts.  You are filtering everything through your Christian world view.  You expect things to get worse and worse until “Christ returns”, but that's not what is…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ June 01 2012,05:09)We know the events leading up to it in detail and perfect order.What was the last big event, and what is the next big event?  And how long until it happens?

Quote (Wakeup @ June 01 2012,20:26)When you say religious people,do you mean the so called Christians,and the true Christians both together?There are true followers and there are so called followers,they are called the luke warm,and they are the majority.Have you heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy?  Your response is a primary example of…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2012,05:33)You are a secular person,anything that your eyes can not see,is not there.This is a very shallow view of the universe,a very cocky attitude.I have never said any such thing.  I am open to anything for which there is evidence.  If there's no evidence for something, why should I believe it?Quote We have the b…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2012,05:02)So morals evolved through society,has that worked so far?Yes.  In large part, we no longer believe in appeasing gods by sacrificing animals or people.  In large part, we no longer allow human beings to enslave other human beings.  In fact, in general, we are far less violent than we have ever been.Yes, there ar…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2012,23:06)Whatistrue.Where does morals come from,in your opinion?wakeup.Morals come from the desire/need for social cooperation.  People who desire to live in close proximity to other people have to figure out ways in which to do so agreeably.(By contrast, if you live on an island with no other creatures with which to…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2012,23:15)You can not discus spiritual things using your secular knowledge. These are two different wavelengths.If by “spiritual things” you mean things that don't make sense in the real world, then, yes, I agree with you.

Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2012,20:25)Every one must use their own conscience in truth.You should have started (and ended) your post with this statement, because this is the essential point that I was trying to make with my questions.In your OP, you suggest that humans are morally lost without a god.  Yet, I ask you two moral questions and you can't…[Read more]

Wakeup,I am not saying that Christians are the only selfish people.  We are all selfish.  It's part of being human.  However, Christians love to call non-believers selfish while exhibiting the most selfish attitudes known to mankind.I repeat:Can you name something more selfish than wanting to gain from the personal sacrifice of somebody else?

Does this higher power of yours consider slavery to be good or evil?Also, for bonus points, what does this higher power think of contraceptives?  Good or evil?