@Wakeup
you asked:

How can Christ marry a church like this one? All the churches of today are even worse.

John 3
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world…[Read more]

@Wakeup
Is your teaching, your ‘woman?’
Is the doctrine of the apostle’s their ‘woman?’

@Wakeup
you said:

Jesus is not going to marry his own body.

Jesus doesn’t marry His own body. His bride is a body of believers with Christ as the head. Like a man who is head of his wife.

Don’t make it so difficult. A man doesn’t marry his own body but is head of his wife and the two become one flesh.

I’m totally at peace with the church…[Read more]

@Wakeup
you said:

1.The people are the invited to the wedding.
2.The bride is the clothing they have on.

Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

So…[Read more]

@Wakeup
The Holy Jerusalem is the church made up of persons who are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. This is what I have been saying all along.

@Wakeup

This is simple.

Holy Jerusalem=those clothed in the righteousness of Jesus (the church-the bride of Christ)

Babyon the great=those not clothed in the righteousness of Jesus

@Wakeup
Hi there,
The holy city is the church.

Consider these passages:
Rev 19
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of…[Read more]

@Wakeup

you said:

The church is said to be the body of Christ and the head is Christ. Do you agree?
Is Christ to marry his own body? No.
You need to discover God’s Woman; and the bride of Christ; Which is the daughter of God’s woman.

After marriage, the bridegroom and the bride become one flesh, so this fits very well for Christ to be the hea…[Read more]

@wakeup,

The statement “THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST, AND THE FIRST LAST” seems to mean that come first in some way will come last in the same way later and those that are last in some way will come first in the same way later”.  By itself the statement is vague and I missed how it applied the parable because I had the wrong understanding for it for…[Read more]

@Wakeup
The church is a group of people, correct? This group of people, as a unity, not individually, are the Bride of Christ. How is that a contradiction? Maybe you just misunderstood me.

@Wakeup
God (Jesus) marries the group of people called the church. He does not marry individuals. Marriage on earth is only a type of this marriage. Jesus becomes one with the church and cares for her as a bridegroom cares for a bride. I think it is a metaphor to stress the intimate relationship that Jesus has with the body of believers who…[Read more]

@wakeup

I read that you said the bride is perfected knowledge, or something like that. But I have to say that this topic I started was prompted by the subject that Journey brought up…the whole subject got me curious…so I did a few searches online to see what people had to say about it. This topic post of mine has nothing to do with how you…[Read more]

@Wakeup
you said:

If you look at it through human eyes; yes, you will see two.
The Son and the Father; this is how the majority sees it.
The Son needs to feed us to be able to understand.

The early church saw two distinct persons also. What kind of eyes do you have and how many do you see?

@Wakeup

The truth of the matter now, for me, is that I am questioning this doctrine. It is true that the Body is never directly called the Bride. In fact,in Revelation, the Angel showed John the Bride and it was Holy Jerusalem. Scripture says that the Bride is clothed in white linen which represents the righteousness of the Saints. Does it not…[Read more]

@Wakeup
Deut 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

The LORD is the God of gods and the Lord of lords…
That would be two persons as is clarified in the NT.

1 Cor 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all…[Read more]

@Wakeup

Very good op! Do you believe that one translation of the Bible was protected? Do you believe that other translations were not protected? I watched a video that was linked to on HN which gives strong evidence to that possibility. One way to examine which text is accurate is to see how the verse is quoted by the early church fathers and the…[Read more]

@wakeup
you said:

Your analogy contradicts God’s own words.

I disagree that my analogy contradicts God’s own words. If I agreed then I would not hold on to my understanding. Let me demonstrate this to you in the verses that you wrote down as supposed evidence of contradiction:

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is NO S…

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@wakeup

He thinks he knows what he talking about.

You also think you know what you are talking about.
Also, I have heard many who think they know what they are talking about regarding the interpretation of the Book of Revelation. But all cannot be right, no matter that were entirely convinced of their view. But I guess you are different. I also…[Read more]

@wakeup
Sorry wakeup but this is a private debate. Thank you for respecting that.