Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2012,01:49)Wakeup…………LIBERTY to Chose our desires and Having a WILL the Is FREE if INFLUENCES is quite different. It is a Satanic Spirit at work (IN) People that makes them think they have a will that is FREE.   If God granted us a “FREE WILL” then he would find not faults with us becasue he created us with…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2012,04:38)Mike ……….Because other scriptures show differently and there is no scriptural evidence of any activity of Jesus prior to his coming to existence on this EARTH.  Jesus never said on word of any of a Prior existence or any prior activity , so why should i believe he had a prior existence he sure never…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,08:28)Hi Wakeup,It seems to me that Satan was still included among the “sons of God” who presented themselves in Job 1 and 2.  This was after he tempted Eve in the garden.But that is a good question to ponder:  Are the angels who have rebelled against God still “sons of God”?Mike B.If you read that scripture very c…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2012,00:11)Hi Wakeup,Belshazzar being the last king of Babylon does not nullify the fact that in Daniels dream Babylon was 'the lion'.            …did you somehow think it does?  God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ.You just love to be in error.It is our choice brother.wakeup.

Quote (kerwin @ July 01 2012,18:03)Marty,Scriptures=Writings.  It is just traditions that lead us to say Scriptures.There is no mention of Jesus in 1 Corinthians 15:45-47.  That interpretation is based on tradition, the idea Jesus is a being whose body consists of spirit and that Jesus is the first man of the new creation.  The KJV also has ad…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2012,00:41)To all…….Where it says in Revelation that Jesus gave it to His angel to give to the Churches, that Angel or “MESSENGER” was JOHN and the message was to the Churches . John gave the churches the words given him by Jesus who recieved it from God the FATHER who is SPIRIT, therefore it says to him that…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,13:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES or NO?Yes.Is jesus really a groom, or is it just symbolising him as a groom?Is jesus really a lamb, or is it hust symbolising him as a lamb?Is jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2012,10:51)To all;It is an untruth to claim that all sons of God are angels.  In Job angels are called by the name of the sons of God but in the Five Books of Law it is the Hebrew people whom are called the children of the most high.  Genesis is one of the Five Books while Job was inspired to be written later in order to s…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ June 17 2012,10:51)Hi Nick,Very True, Jn 1:13,  Must be born again from above.Marlin.One question:I Jesus born again at the jordan? when he was babtised?wakeup.

This is how lucifers philosophy was in the beginning and is today. This is how he rebelled against his creator,and became satan. His philosophy is that there is no such as love for God; but just bribery.And there is no such as free will under God.There is no such as free will,it is God that decides in the end. lucifer wanted to be free; and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2012,03:53)Good post Wakeup.I would like to see you post those same points, numbered one by one, with some “YES or NO” questions at the end of them.  That way, Gene could actually directly address your points instead of re-posting his “intellect inside us” post yet again. I will use one of your great points as an…[Read more]

EDJ.The evidence is Dan7:1.and you see but can not perceive.You will not even admit that belshazzar is the last king in babylon.He was killed that night soon after the writings on the wall.wakeup.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2012,00:23)Wake ……….All Spirit come from the out side of our Flesh including our own. The Sprit of a Satan is not a “BEING” working from the out side it is within a Person, because (IT) is Spirit. When Jesus called PETER SATAN he was talking to him not to some other elusive “BEING” creeping around jumping in…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2012,00:41)To all…….Where it says in Revelation that Jesus gave it to His angel to give to the Churches, that Angel or “MESSENGER” was JOHN and the message was to the Churches . John gave the churches the words given him by Jesus who recieved it from God the FATHER who is SPIRIT, therefore it says to him that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2012,19:02)Quote (Devolution @ June 29 2012,17:59)And when He described the horns of the ram as being Medo kings (1 horn) AND Persian kings (other horn), He was making sure His point was being made of TWO separate bloodlines by adding and into the sentence.Just agree with me so we can stop debating this would you Ed!! Hi…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2012,09:45)To all;You all know it is written that the the World to come is not subject to Messengers.  If you state Messengers means both man and angelic beings then you state it is not subject to Jesus Christ.  You know that is not true. That leaves you with two possibilities which are:1}  The earth is subject to hu…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2012,01:57)To all…………Satan is simply an adversarial Spirit in the book of Job ,(IT) could not get to Job becasue God had shielded Job form (IT'S) influence (IN) him and therefore in his life, until God removed the protection then (IT) was allowed to effect  Job. Spirits created by God that give us reasoning…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 29 2012,12:28)Wakeup,I have no clue what question those verses are supposed to answer, or what you're trying to tell me with them.MokeB.Your question: Does it say in scripture, when Jesus was called the word of God?My answer; yes,in rev.19:13.————————————————-You notice in isiah 43:11. it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 29 2012,10:30)Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2012,11:56)GeneB.Can I add another question to you?Who or what is satan in the book of Job?can you explain?wakeup.Gene,Were you going to directly address this post?Mike B.Hi mike,and GeneB has also not answered my first question.Who tempted Eve in the garden?wakeup.

Quote (kerwin @ June 28 2012,10:17)To all;Hebrews 1:2King James Version (KJV)1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;1) This Scripture teaches that God spoke…[Read more]