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    Terra.Satan is the devil as Jeus called him.Demons could be many,like evil spirits?But that word demon is not in the kjv.wakeup.

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    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,04:51)Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2012,07:21)Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,12:03)Gene;Quote Kerwin……… Yes i have ,and believe the big problem Here is not understand what a SPIRIT (IS) .  The “Spirit” of an Adversary is not a Person of any Kind it is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can be in anyone yes even PETER and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2012,20:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2012,05:29)Kerwin, do YOU have anything to add to my last post to Gene – seeing how you and he have shared the view that root and branch carry the same metaphorical meaning?Mike,It seems to me that Jesus is the Rod of Jesse and the church is the Branch that grows out of his roots.A…[Read more]

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    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,01:17)Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)do you think the devil should know ???The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.ColterColter.And when was the devil murdered,or killed?And where is it in scripture?So he is not guilty one after all; of all the evil that is going on today.So…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 15 2012,03:43)Wakeup………Why a “BOTTOMLESS” Pit?  The answer to that question will explain what a Satan (IS) . Remember the word “bottomless” means there is no end to (IT)> The term Satan is a term for an Evil Adversarial  “Spirit”  and becasue it is SPIRIT it can not Die but  (IT) be contained By GOD, And the rea…[Read more]

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    Wakeup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 15 2012,02:52)Quote (Lightenup @ July 13 2012,06:20)Gene,It depends on the context. I see two on the highest throne and the rest surrounding the throne. All with the Spirit are a unity of sorts but not all are in unity as the supreme authority. I believe that the Father and the Son are in unity as our supreme authority.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,00:30)Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,22:59)Colter.So why cant you depend on the Holy bible?All scripture is inspired by the Holy spirit.wakeup.I depend on God, the Bible is a golden calf, an idol fetish for those who find it to uncertain to have a faith based relationship with the living God.Truth is inspired by God,…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2012,02:45)Quote (Colter @ July 13 2012,06:55)…that mortals may be empowered to live individual lives of originality and freedom before God… ….you can experience in the joy of your united dedication to the wholehearted doing of the will of my Father in heaven….Colter,It seems the UB relies on as much confusion…[Read more]

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    Quote (Colter @ July 15 2012,06:27)Quote (terraricca @ July 15 2012,03:56)colterthis is crap ,pure organized religion junk.The Urantia Book isn't a religion, we aren't organized as a religion.You seem like an angry person, perhaps frustrated by the intellectual limitations of the Bible fetish.  “Present not that which is holy to dogs, neither…[Read more]

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    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,11:50)Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,07:52)Revelation20:2. And he laid hold on the DRAGON,that old SERPENT,WHICH IS THE DEVIL AND SATAN,and BOUND HIM a thousand years.(future).3. And cast HIM into the bottomless pit and shut HIM up.and set a seal upon HIM that he should DECEIVE THE NATIONS NO MORE, till the thousand…[Read more]

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    Colter.So why cant you depend on the Holy bible?All scripture is inspired by the Holy spirit.wakeup.

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    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,07:21)Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,07:07)Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,06:22)Quote (Ed J @ July 13 2012,08:23)Quote (Colter @ July 13 2012,03:17)I belong to the “kingdom of heaven” and faithfully submit to the gospel taught by Jesus.ColterHi Colter,”faithfully submit to the gospel taught by Jesus.” – that is what…[Read more]

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    Revelation20:2. And he laid hold on the DRAGON,that old SERPENT,WHICH IS THE DEVIL AND SATAN,and BOUND HIM a thousand years.(future).3. And cast HIM into the bottomless pit and shut HIM up.and set a seal upon HIM that he should DECEIVE THE NATIONS NO MORE, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed for a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 13 2012,00:35)Kerwin……….Jessu did not talk about Beelzebub that was the Pharisees and their Pagan precept they had recieved form the pagan over the years, nowhere in Scriptures is a Beelzebub mentioned by any of God true Prophets or leaders,  all MYTHOLOGY about devils and demons came from Pagan origins. Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ July 13 2012,15:08)Quote (942767 @ July 13 2012,14:04)Hi Ed:God was “justified in the spirit”?  No, God did not become flesh.  God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.Quote 2Cr 5:18   And all things of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;   2Cr 5:1…[Read more]

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    Carmel.Revelation 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I AM THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF DAVID,AND THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR.(?).wakeup.

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    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,06:22)Quote (Ed J @ July 13 2012,08:23)Quote (Colter @ July 13 2012,03:17)I belong to the “kingdom of heaven” and faithfully submit to the gospel taught by Jesus.ColterHi Colter,”faithfully submit to the gospel taught by Jesus.” – that is what Bodhitharta (the forums muslim) claims he does as well.But he submits to the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ July 13 2012,15:23)Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2012,19:21)Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,12:03)Gene;Quote Kerwin……… Yes i have ,and believe the big problem Here is not understand what a SPIRIT (IS) .  The “Spirit” of an Adversary is not a Person of any Kind it is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can be in anyone yes even PETER and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,12:03)Gene;Quote Kerwin……… Yes i have ,and believe the big problem Here is not understand what a SPIRIT (IS) .  The “Spirit” of an Adversary is not a Person of any Kind it is a SPIRIT (INTELLECT) and can be in anyone yes even PETER and the PHARISEES . Spirit is Spiirt and a Person or “BEING” is quite another.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 12 2012,01:15)Wakeup………So then to you the Devil is a SERPENT or SNAKE Right? Those are Physical creatures and I highely doubt that a Satan is a Real SERPENT. That is the problem with trying to make a Metaphor in to a real as a Person or Animal.  You can not understand Genesis without understanding the Symbolism…[Read more]

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