Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,18:43)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,11:34)Jesus did prophecy a bit here and there,(matt.24).and so the apostles.But to know prophecy we must go to revelation and the old prophets.Thats what they are there for.What about Ez.37 and 38. is that not prophecy?Can you find that in the gospels? NO.And many ,many more that you…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,14:54)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,12:52)Dont post heaps of scriptures,just to fill up the screen.Why? Because they are from the new testament instead of the old testament? Is it not you and your three who post 'heaps' of scriptures that fill up the screen from the old testament over and over?Have you found that ONE…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,14:54)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,12:52)Dont post heaps of scriptures,just to fill up the screen.Why? Because they are from the new testament instead of the old testament? Is it not you and your three who post 'heaps' of scriptures that fill up the screen from the old testament over and over?Have you found that ONE…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2013,15:07)all the way I see those scriptures is like this ;women means what ???Ge 2:20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.SO SCRIPTURES CALL A WOMEN AN “”SUITABLE HELPER””WHY WOULD MEN NEED A HELPER  OBVIOUSLY TO…[Read more]

No one is interested about the remnant,because it does not fit in their doctrine? that is understandable.But where is the spirit of hunger for the truth?Everyone seems to be satisfied with what they already have. There seem to be none that hunger for more knowledge?wakeup.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2013,11:13)look hereKing Herod the Great Herod (73-4 BCE) was the pro-Roman king of the small Jewish state in the last decades before the common era. He started his career as a general, but the Roman statesman Mark Antony recognized him as the Jewish national leader. During a war against the Parthians, Herod was…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,09:50)Wakeup,You still cannot find anything in the NT can you, which agrees with your teachings.One day when I have some time, I will do a big post with all of it.Deal?BTW, Wakeup, Regarding the other thread, I think I will leave it, I see now that it is not really fair to have a conversation with just one person and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,10:04)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:48)Ofcourse he had to grow up,be babtised ,teach crucified died and caught up. It was not a child that was caught up.Hope you can se it more clearly now.You're just saying out loud what I've already concluded, ie:  If the child was Jesus when he was born on earth, then…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,09:28)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:16)She gave birth to A MAN CHILD. not metaphorical.He is real child,flesh and blood.Revelation 12:5   And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.So your understanding is:And she…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,09:00)Wakeup,The words of Jesus do not count, to you?The words of the Apostles do not count?One verse to confirm what you teach, from the new testament, you cannot find one single verse, can you.Edj.Jesus did prophecy a bit here and there,(matt.24).and so the apostles.But to know prophecy we must go to revelation and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,06:58)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,02:27)Quote (abe @ Feb. 11 2013,14:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2013,15:53)Okay.  I concur that the stars are Satan's angels.The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.I've heard that this was…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,08:10)And regarding the book of Revelations. You are trying to fit all of your beliefs into one chapter of the new testament. I will re-post what I quoted earlier, from the Amillenial Audio..”Your position says that only in the 20th chapter of the book of Revelation does it allow for the time period for the unfulfilled…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,07:43)Wakeup,You have nothing from the words of Jesus nor the words of the Apostles.Nothing.Don't you think that they would have reconfirmed what you are saying if it was truth?2Besee.The gospels are to reveal the kingdom of God.The prophesies are to reveal the future,things coming to this world.Some are fulfilled,and…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,07:43)Wakeup,You have nothing from the words of Jesus nor the words of the Apostles.Nothing.Don't you think that they would have reconfirmed what you are saying if it was truth?2Besee.For your information.The apostles are to preach the gospel.Prophets are to prophecy.The old testament is also the word of God.The books…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2013,04:30)Looking into the 4 Horses – 4 Chariots,  and comparing Rev.6:2-8  to Zech.6:2-8OK, back to the topic.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDj.Not correct.Not four horses:Zechariah 6:1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from b…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2013,04:36)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,16:15)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2013,12:29)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2013,09:33)EDj.You are clearly out of track; A nation was NEVER BORN in one day at pantecost.wakeup.Hi Wakeup,I know, that happened on the May 14, 1948.God blessEd J EDJ.For your information.1948 was the FIRST…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2013,04:43)Hi Wakeup,My answer was both honest and truthful.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDj.You are again going against what is written in scripture.Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the **EARTH**, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 12 2013,07:32)Journey,That is excluding Revelations which anyone can misinterpret.2Besee.Most prophesies are in the old testament.Do you think that the old testament is out of date?Is that not also the word of God?The book of revelation can be mis interpreted,and many have done so.Thats why we need to compare the old and the…[Read more]

Sorry about that big gap,dont know what happened there.wakeup.

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 16 2012,16:08)Mike,Jesus humanity was brought to life by the Father and because Jesus, as the God/Man Messiah was brought to life, others can live eternally if they depend on Jesus.Lightenup.Is Jesus a kind of hybrid?The God/man.This only makes his suffering not equal to mans suffering.He will be a kind of half brother to us.wakeup.