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    MikeB.Quote What exactly do you think “brought forth” means? Would you ever claim that Jehovah Himself was “brought forth”? Of course not, because you know that the phrase “brought forth” implies a beginning of existence, and it implies a greater one who brought the lesser one forth.BRINGING FORTH MEANS BRINGING OUT.IN THIS CASE; IS FROM INSIDE…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2014,12:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,17:51)True;And God's nature is what He stands for.What He stands for is in the Words He has spoken.God's nature is “spirit”, Wakeup.Don't go adding to what the scriptures say.  They say that God is spirit.  They don't say that God is any of His own words.A person's words are not t…[Read more]

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    Mikw B.This is how the new translations can lead oneastray far away from the truth.Just with a few words.If you follow that translation; you will come across many contradictions. But many dont care to follow it up.They just accept that as truth;with no questions.KJV: Proverbs 8:22 The LORD **possessed me** in the beginning of his way, before…[Read more]

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    Mike B.Exod.4:11Deut.32:39.1 Sam.2:6Job. 26:13Lament.3:38.Psalms.78:49Isai.45:7.Isai.54:16.Amos.3:6.Just to see what your bible says.wakeup.

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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 20 2014,08:47)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 19 2014,15:39)Mike B.My question was.Of what **subsuance** will one be given a spirit form?Out of what substance?Is it not of the Word of God in him?With no Word of God In him;there would be nothing toform,there will be just emptiness.Therefore not resurrected.The Word of God was given a form…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:42)Wakeup,If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him.Mike B.Quote If “the Word OF God” is NOT actually God Himself, then he is NOT our Creator, nor are we to worship him.I can not believe the scales covering your eyes are so thick.HOW MANY TIMES DO I…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:22)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,10:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,03:22)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,19:13)My question:*What was* made flesh and dwelleth amongst men?The first-created spirit Son of God, Jesus the Christ.This first spirit Son that God ever created was later caused to be born of a human…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:44)Wakeup,Do you understand that last part of my post?  Or not?Do you believe Jesus was the actual Father Jehovah Almighty while he was on earth?  YES or NO?Mikeb b.Yes; God was *IN* Jesus speaking at all time.Jesus said:The Words that I speak to you are not mine.What I hear the Father speak,that I say.What I s…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,04:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 23 2014,11:10)Marty; are you still going to comment to my list of evilGod can do?I saw Marty comment on a couple of them – just like I did, Wakeup.Perhaps Marty is like me, and waiting for you to post ONE scripture at a time, so we can show you – ONE AT A TIME – how not one of those…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 24 2014,05:29)Hi Wakeup:I have been commenting on the scriptures about the evil that God can do, but the list was quite long, and I don't have time to sit and research all of the scriptures that you posted at one sitting.  However, I believe that they will be similar because God is either causing tribulation to his children…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,03:57)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,20:00)Mike B.The words you are spouting out is not you.You have no word; some other mouth is speaking on your behalf. TRUE OR FALE?The first line is true.  My words are not actually me myself.The second part is false.  I speak my own words from my own mind and mouth.Quote (…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,05:17)Wakeup's last two posts were absolute nonsense, that have nothing at all to do with any of the subjects we were discussing.  I'll take those posts as a surrender.Mike B.Who is speaking; saying that I spoke nonsense?Who is He?Has He got a name?wakeup.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,06:02)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,21:14)The being next to God is given a form based on the Word of God. His basic substance(spirit) is God's own Word.Wakeup,The being NEXT TO God is not actually God Himself.  He is not to receive our worship, nor is he our Creator.  Nor is he physically made from words God s…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2014,02:44)To All……..Now you have moved this argument to, that i am saying we do not have a WILL, that is Not the Point here I perfectly well know we all have will, the question He are those WILL “FREE” Not one scripture Posted by anyone say they ARE “FREE, but every thing posted is about a driven will and that…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2014,03:22)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2014,19:13)My question:*What was* made flesh and dwelleth amongst men?The first-created spirit Son of God, Jesus the Christ.This first spirit Son that God ever created was later caused to be born of a human woman, and dwelled on earth as the very Son of God that he always had been.Mike…[Read more]

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    If I was temped by a gorgeous lady;It is my decision to take her or leave her.If I have fallen for her temptation,it was my own decision.Therefore I have sinned against God;because that was not God's decision.wakeup.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,05:17)Wakeup's last two posts were absolute nonsense, that have nothing at all to do with any of the subjects we were discussing.  I'll take those posts as a surrender.Mike B.The words you are spouting out is not you.You have no word; some other mouth is speaking on your behalf. TRUE OR FALE?You are just you with…[Read more]

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    Mike.You are contradicting your own words.At first you say we will be resurrected in spirit as the angels.Then you change your words,by saying that we will be resurrected by spririt and water. ??My question:*What was* made flesh and dwelleth amongst men?wakeup.

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    Will you please watch all his videos.I believe *so far* that he is a true man of God.Watch the power of the Lord working miracles.God working miracles starting with a poor countryfull of idol worship,and witchcraft.This is a great witness to the world.God showing that He is true,and loving.God loves every person;but hates the evil in them.wakeup.

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