Marty said:Quote Hi TC:If you are saying that Jesus is God, then that is altering the gospel.God through the Apostle Peter revealed to humanity that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God. (Matthew 16)  Why is that so hard to understand?Love in Christ,MartyTo say that a comma SHOULD be there is your way of trying to alter what it says. If…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,19:24)Hi TC, Then why is trinity your first answer? It is not writtenNick,I can understand why you have doubts if the actual word is not in the Bible; however you are too stuck on a word for you to actually see the truth. Jesus was exalted to the highest place as it says in Philippians. Therefore, he is equal to…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ July 02 2009,19:04)My point was that Elohim are not angels, but equates more closely with gods (note the small g), this supports arguments that the early Hebrews were essentially henotheistic, where God is essentially an OverGod or as mentioned elsewhere God of gods.  So how can you have the title of God of gods if there are no…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 02 2009,18:15)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 03 2009,13:36)Marty,What about Titus 2:13? God AND Savior Jesus Christ?TC27Hi:KJV reads:  Quote Tts 2:13   Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;  It probably should have a comma after God in that sentence.  G…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,17:59)Hi TC, For us there is one God the Father… and one Lord Jesus Christ. True worshipers worship the Father.. What was your question again?Nick, My true question to you was if you worship Jesus, because if you do, then you contradict your own faith.TC27

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,17:53)Hi TC, So where in the bible does God plainly teach trinity?If it is not in the bible why do you teach it. Have you greater knowledge than God?Nick,No I do not have greater knowledge than God. That is why I do not question the Scriptures.You never have answers, only questions. Do you think that helps your…[Read more]

Nick,If you would follow the teachings of God you would worship Him above all else.TC27

Marty,What about Titus 2:13? God AND Savior Jesus Christ?TC27

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,16:41)Hi TC, Did you know how many speak in Revelation? God Jesus Angels Elders and John.Check Rev 1 for example. Do you think you can define where every statement there comes from?IMPLICATIONS are not relevant in the search for truth. They are all individual presumptions.Nick,Simple context explains who is…[Read more]

Nick,Do you believe in worshipping Jesus?TC27

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,15:58)Hi TC, So bothe Jesus and God both did things so Jesus must be God? Have you studied logic at all?Nick,You claim that there is one creator. Therefore, if Jesus and God created then you cannot be correct. So, since God is the sole creator, but Jesus also created, then Jesus has to be God. Also you claim that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,15:56)Hi TC, First and last need context for definition.Applying doctrinal constraints is not wise.Scripture says Jesus is a man in several places but you know more?Nick,Revelation 1: 4-8:Quote 4John,      To the seven churches in the province of Asia:   Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,15:44)Hi TC, Are you going to apply the meanings for us?Why not let context tell us?Nick,What meanings do I need to apply? Alpha and Omega speaks for itself. If Jesus is first and last, he cannot be merely a man as you say.TC27

Marty,Jesus was called God by God himself. So why shouldn't you call him your God.Hebrews 1:9-10Quote 9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;      therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” 10He also says,   “In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,    …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,14:43)Hi TC, First what?  Firstborn of the dead? Last what? The last Adam?Nick,WOW, you haven't read Isaiah or Revelation have you? The Alpha and the Omega means the first of all things and the last of all things. TC27

Quote (942767 @ July 02 2009,13:50)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 03 2009,09:34)Marty said:Quote Hi thethinker:God has given him all power over heaven and earth, and he is worthy of all praise, glory and honor, and yes, he is my Lord, and I love him and am subjected to God through him.There is no problem with what you have stated here, and I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,13:46)Hi TC,Show me where Jesus taught trinity if he is your master.Nick,Christ said in Revelation that he is the FIRST and the LAST. If that does not teach that Jesus is God then I don't know what does because God is also first and last as it says in Isaiah 48.TC27

Marty said:Quote Hi thethinker:God has given him all power over heaven and earth, and he is worthy of all praise, glory and honor, and yes, he is my Lord, and I love him and am subjected to God through him.There is no problem with what you have stated here, and I agree, but when you say that he is God in the sense of the “Trinity”, you are causing…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,12:57)Hi TC,So you think that compounding all the inferences you think you have found is sufficient to justify teaching what Jesus did not teach? Are you greater than him?Nick,Do you know that everything you have said are your own inferences? So now making inferences is bad? Then you should stop making them.So…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,12:55)Hi TC, So Jesus was the sacrifice. So to Whom was he sacrificed?Nick,In the Old Testament it was the job of the priest to offer up a sacrifice to atone for the sins of the people. However, we know that Jesus was the high priest AND the sacrifice. So if Jesus can be both priest and sacrifice, can he not also…[Read more]