Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 08 2007,16:35)Hmm, now we have two atheists and a wanna be Jew on here. This should be fun.Well maybe. Its a big step you know. Not like the easy 'all you have to do is repent and believe'. That is why there are 2.1 billion Christians and so few Jews. Christians practically beg you to 'believe' but rabbis push you away.…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ Nov. 08 2007,14:33)So what really your point in all this Towshab? That the new testament has errors and Mistranslation…and that you dont believe in the Messiah?Yes, yes, and yes. How astute of you to notice. But you forgot one: that the new testament tries to ‘prove’ that Jesus is the end times Moshiach but fails to do so bec…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 08 2007,17:05)Towshab, you have several times mocked Jesus statement about coming quickly.I wonder how you feel about the many Hebrew scriptures that say the Day of Jehovah is near. JOEL 1:15““Alas for the day; because the day of Jehovah is near, and like a despoiling from the Almighty One it will come!”JOEL 2:1““…[Read more]

Matthew just happens to be the first book in the Christian bible. Since it was supposedly written to Jewish people I merely wanted to show how it fails to convert Jews who know their scripture because of the many conflicts with Tanakh (and itself and other gospels).

Quote (Morningstar @ Nov. 08 2007,06:05)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 08 2007,21:18)Quote (Morningstar @ Nov. 08 2007,03:58)some highlights:It is the oldest of several ancient translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek.And yet 60% of the DSS supports the Masoretic while only 5% the LXX, and much of that 5% was found in cave 4.Quote While Jews have not…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Nov. 08 2007,03:58)some highlights:It is the oldest of several ancient translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek.And yet 60% of the DSS supports the Masoretic while only 5% the LXX, and much of that 5% was found in cave 4.Quote While Jews have not used the LXX in worship or religious study since the second century AD, recent…[Read more]

Here's a good one that tells us that again Matthew was either a poor Jew or a good one (deliberately making mistakes so learned Jews would reject his book).Mat 27:9 Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the prophet Jeremiah, saying, “And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 07 2007,22:49)Hi Towshab:You say:Quote I think if you research this more even most Christian scholars believe there will be a third temple. I don't deny that there will be a third temple as I have already stated, but it will also be destroyed.How does that hold up in light of Ez 37:26 where it says that the temple will stand…[Read more]

esus didn’t spend enough time with the rabbis! ==============================Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which says: 'Hearing you shall hear and by no means understand, and seeing you shall see and by no means perceive. Mat 13:15 For the heart of this people has become dull, and their ears are hard of hearing, a…[Read more]

This is a very interesting quote and quite out of place in Jesus’ ministry. It is a quote taken from the LXX (or at least the LXX was ‘corrected’ to reflect it)==============================Mat 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to th…[Read more]

Was John supposed to be the real Messiah? Jesus said John is even greater than himself!Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.==============================Was Mary not a woman? Well then…[Read more]

The family feud? Not in the messianic age!Mat 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in…[Read more]

Jesus wants them to be like satan?Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the…[Read more]

The 12 Apostles and then some.Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;Mat 10:4…[Read more]

More silence.Mat 9:25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose. Mat 9:26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.And yet still no record of him outside of the Christian bible. Seems to be of small town local fame. Didn't even make the 3rd page of the obituaries.

Jesus says many will not need him at all.==============================Mat 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.==============================Compare this too==============================Job 33:26 He shall pray unto God, and he will…[Read more]

Many people saw but again no one recorded.Mat 8:34 And, behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus: and when they saw him, they besought him that he would depart out of their coasts.Jesus had just cast out the two demons and made them go into a herd of swine. The swine drowned in the sea. Seems he didn’t like the Gentiles not being kosher! A…[Read more]

Misquoting again! This time it was only Matthew though and not Jesus.Mat 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.==============================Is this what it says? Check out the KJV and Apostles (LXX)==============================Isa 53:4 Surely he…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 07 2007,10:21)Oh Oh! Now which are we to believe? Seems the Old Testament is “False” according to the reasoning of Tow! We have an Old Testament older than the one he basis his whole “theory of the “false” Messiah! Now what is Tow going to do? I can still prove he is false using only the Septuagint if you’d like. I like t…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Nov. 07 2007,08:01)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeptuagintSee for yourself.While reading see what the consensus on these questions are:Which is the oldest? There is no mention of which is oldest other than the existing manuscripts. Quote Which text variants are influenced by which others?What is most likely the “original”…[Read more]