Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 09 2007,09:48)Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 26 2007,17:14)May GOD have mercy on your soul.I can't discuss this anymore…this has gone way to far for me.To say that JESUS is not real is flat out blasphemy…and I can't engage in further conversation on this matter. Jesus is real…thats the only reason you can be forgiven of your sins.…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2007,18:36)Explain to me why these writers should have mentioned Jesus.I think you're answering you're own question. Think about it: Jesus was supposed to be the final Moshiach of the Jewish people, his coming was to usher in all sorts of wonderful things. Yet none of it happened.Yet regardless of the historian, the things…[Read more]

The Synoptic 'plan of salvation'Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.Luk 10:25 And, behold, a certain…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Nov. 09 2007,01:31)The Gospel Of John Has complicated the walk by confusing, his “Light” with sin?Righteousness is the begining and end of JUDGEMENT…If we should judge our own natures, we shall be found worthyThat's one book that practically destroyed the 'real message' of Jesus. I challenge anyone to come up with Jesus plan o…[Read more]

Speaking of science, it appears the god-man needed some botany lessonsLuk 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.Since mustard is a plant it certainly won't grow into a tree. Must be some birds smaller than…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 09 2007,03:39)Quote (IM4Truth @ Nov. 09 2007,20:02)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 09 2007,19:23)Quote (charity @ Nov. 09 2007,19:09)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 09 2007,18:56)Quote (Unisage @ Nov. 09 2007,04:56)But if people like to attack the New testament you need to attack the Old first.I mean after all what is in the new should be in the old.. Hear…[Read more]

Basically the mainstream Christianity we see today is the result of one heretical group winning over the other. The 'early church fathers' were just more organized than the other splinter groups and thus succeeded in spreading their form of Christianity. Christianity in its infancy was one big power struggle with the losers usually being put to…

Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2007,02:19)Quote Who cares if he existed?Well, for one, the Jews seem to care.So, Towshab apparently has no proof that Gamaliel existed. Does anyone else?Again no one holds the thought of eternal damnation over people if they don't accept that Gamaliel lived. So its a non-starter.

Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2007,03:47)Quote ++”Suetonius and Pliny the Younger, other Roman writers of the time, also referred to Christ.Do you have a reference for that? My reading suggests that neither Suetonius nor Pliny make any mention at a…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2007,02:45)If you're talking about that monkey with the head of a human, you're right. I sure wouldn't want that to fall on me!Although references to Jesus Christ by early secular historians are meager, such references do exist. Cornelius Tacitus, a respected first-century Roman historian, wrote: “The name is derived f…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Nov. 08 2007,20:44)Christians don't sin anymore if they walk in the spirit. Not doing good can be a sin.Then no one has the spirit cause I've yet to encounter a sinless person.

Quote (david @ Nov. 08 2007,21:36)If you do not believe in Jesus because you feel there is a lack of evidence he existed, I challenge you to prove that Rabbi Gamaliel (Gamaliel the Elder) was a real person.There is a reference in Acts 5:34; 22:3. According to Jewish tradition, he was the first president of the Great Sanhedrin of Jerusalem.He…[Read more]

Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

More twisting. From the Apostles Bible (so the LXX will be used lest someone cry foul)================================2Co 3:13 and not as Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the end of what was passing away. 2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains…[Read more]

The Old Covenant replaced by the New?================================Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law {Torah}, and the word of the LORD from…[Read more]

No more sin sacrifices because of Jesus?================================Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Heb 10:12…[Read more]

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?This second quote comes from 2 Sam 7:14. Is this supposed to be Jesus?================================2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Nov. 08 2007,19:19)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 09 2007,12:13)Faith without works is dead. Hey I could have gotten along with James ya know.O that sounds promising…….what was the meeting ground, what did you like about him?Because he was more like the Jesus you find in the Synoptics (faulty as they are) minus virgin birth and…[Read more]

Quote (Please Forgive Me @ Nov. 08 2007,01:38)I'm trying to give my life to God. I give it to him for 5 minutes then I take it back by looking at porn and sinning….HELP ME PLEASE! I'm shy with my religion, I basically keep it to myself. I want to have a beautiful wife with a kid and I want to be faithful to her, but I cant even give my life to…[Read more]

Faith without works is dead. Hey I could have gotten along with James ya know.