Moved from the trinity thread+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2007,18:55)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 12 2007,23:47)Perhaps they were borrowed. Who knows? But the Jewish scripture wasn't written based on another religions bible.Well that is debatable according to some.Although I may not agree with them, you have shown a pattern of…[Read more]

Moved from the 'trinity' thread.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2007,20:15)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 12 2007,02:15)I would put forward that the first distortion of the true Jesus is your very own bible. Virgin birth, god-man incarnate, drinking blood, sacrificing life for sins of all his followers, death-rebirth, etc. are all…[Read more]

94,In light of 1 John 3:4, what is the law?

Interesting!(1) Jesus said that Satan was the father of liesJoh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.(2) Paul implied…[Read more]

Actually the Roman term for 'morning star' is Lucifer. You know, the Christian 'devil' and Jesus? How ironic.

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 13 2007,20:10)Hi Towshab:If a person sins wilfully, God will chastise him. If he repents, God will forgive him, but if he continues to sin defiantely, God has not choice but to reject him.God is merciful, but He also is a God of justice.Perhaps the following scriptures will help:Quote Hebrews 12 – Study This Chapter 1…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ Nov. 13 2007,07:56)– New King James Version -Genesis 3: 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” *Was this merely a lie from the devil in him saying that God knows both good and evi…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Nov. 13 2007,13:34)I understand mrs truthAlso, still The Blood of any sacrifice even christ, never has promised our immortality.Immortality came well before the Law of mosesFor God was, and is, and will be, the God of the living, Abraham Issac, and Jacob.A broken heart did this, it was the exceptable scarifice to the Lord.Wise…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 13 2007,11:28)94bishop,I am happy you are doing this work, I personally do not have the patients for Tow. He went from not having the Spirit in Him, because of the poluted traditions of men, to not having the Spirit of truth in him, because of the traditions of men.And just like the opinion of the majority of Christians, you…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 13 2007,11:06)Tow said,”Haha, no. Jesus is not 'Jehovah'. If you call on Jesus you are calling on a man, Jesus. Not G-d.”Tow,I don't read much of your garbage, but this caught my attention. And yes, Y'shua means the Salvation of Yah in Hebrew. He came in His Father's Name, and you do not receive Him.If another comes in his…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ Nov. 13 2007,10:26)Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 12 2007,14:01)What I mean is that he did not fulfill the prophecies of the final Messiah before his death and subsequent ascension. Because there is nothing in the Tanach about a second coming this keeps Jewish people from believing in him. Sometimes I wonder myself if Yeshua was not meant…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2007,14:53)Quote They wouldn't write of him because (1) they never heard of him THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVE SILLY. This is another fallacy. You're trying to prove that the many “historians” had a reason to write about him.No I said they never hear of him. There is a difference you know. Are you sure it wasn't your…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 13 2007,11:27)Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2007,11:31)Plurium Interrogationumslow down, unless you're afraid to discuss these things.When you throw-up stuff from books, websites, and other resources, it's hard to “discuss” anything. Have you ever tried to carry on a conversation when your puking? It seems to me that Tow has never…[Read more]

Actually Tim has the best understanding of this passage because when I read it I also thought of the prodigal son. If you all feel otherwise you go against a Judaic principle called teshuva which basically means 'repentance'. The prodigal son story is actually based on this principle and Jesus was pulling this allegory from repentance in the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 13 2007,14:44)Towshab, aren't you tired of being wrong?Quote I will not decimate Hebrews like I did Matthew because that was quite a bit of work. I'm afraid you are delusional. You can add “decimate” to the list of words you should try harder to understand. (Along with “contradiction.”)For the record, what you did with Matthew…[Read more]

Quote (Mr. Steve @ Nov. 12 2007,15:50)Towshab;Let me ask you a few questions:From reading your posts, it is apparent that you believe that Jesus Christ existed on the earth at the time the bible says he lived on earth. Why do you suppose they crucified Jesus?Because he preached against Rome. He was among many insurrectionists. The penalty for…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 12 2007,19:50)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 13 2007,11:35)Here is an ever so subtle form of anti-semitism that is prevalent on the GT (Greek Text). Who was the person to betray Jesus, the one apostle that everyone wants to despise? Judas Iscariot. Well the issue with this is the name and how it gives a very subtle but definite…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 12 2007,22:10)Quote Easy one: you don't have to believe in Gandhi or Bush to keep from burning in hell. Right….and…..Oh I see, because something is more important, it necessitates more proof.That may be. But you still haven't answered my often asked question:Why would any of those writers, satirists, poets, orators, etc,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 12 2007,18:23)Quote The even more obvious: Despite the many people who have not written about Gandhi or Bush, countless people HAVE done so. Very good stuart. And how many people who specialize in writing cookbooks have written about Gandhi?So, maybe you could come up with a list of people back then that actually have some…[Read more]

Here is an ever so subtle form of anti-semitism that is prevalent on the GT (Greek Text). Who was the person to betray Jesus, the one apostle that everyone wants to despise? Judas Iscariot. Well the issue with this is the name and how it gives a very subtle but definite anti-Jewish feeling.The word ‘Jew’ comes from the name ‘Judah’. Judaism…[Read more]