Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,16:03)Quote Yes Christians are like that. If one leaves from a certain denomination they are looked upon poorly by the ones who were left behind.Well, people who follow the Hebrew scriptures should be like that:PROVERBS 11:9“By mouth the one who is an apostate brings his fellowman to ruin, but by knowledge are the r…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,03:09)I will look for more, but here is a scripture that may apply (to stu as well):2 TIMOTHY 2:16“But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Although not really in those conversations, stu apparently has been s…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,03:04)Quote As far as the snake is concerned are you are forgetting that it looked different before it gave the fruit to Eve?–im4truthExplain.Quote Why is his opinion so important to you? First, his opinion isn't that important to me. If I needed someone's opinion, I would most likely not ask people on this site for…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,22:00)Quote Allegory anyone? Please. Have you ever met a talking snake?So, you're saying the snake never really existed? It was an allegory? Is that what you're saying? And that God was speaking to this allegory?I guess I'm not getting through to you. The whole story was an allegory including G-d speaking to a…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ Nov. 20 2007,03:20)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,20:00)Just an observation (and because I haven't posted enough on this page yet), when I first posted in this thread, the poll score was 3 not sure, 3 for evolution and 27 against. The only change in that time has been two added to the “for” option, making a whopping 66% increase! I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 20 2007,05:02)Hi Stu.You don't believe in God and you do not believe in Zeus either.So how come you don't spend the same amount of time debunking Zeus, Baal, or whatever.Why pick on the God of Yeshua the Messiah?Is it a spirit that motivates you. Why that particular God?I don't believe that my greatest grandfather was a primitive…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,21:54)Quote Which turns out that the entries of Jesus by Josephus where spurious and not in the originals as far as the scholars can verify.–towLet's actually clarify your statement:The majority opinion on Josephus is that the parts of the passage from book 18 of 'Jewish Antiquities' which are in bold below are the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,21:14)Quote If it was 'satan' speaking through the snake why would g-d make the poor snake suffer? Please. So it just happened to be a talking snake? To quote yourself: “Please.”And I guess the snake understood what God was telling it. Again: “Please.”Allegory anyone? Please. Have you ever met a talking snake?Quote GEN…[Read more]

Darn but this board does weird stuff if you don't preview posts.

Quote (david @ Nov. 19 2007,00:31)Quote I think Eve really wanted that fruit and the serpent was an allegorySo God was talking to an allegory, telling an allagory that it would have enmity with “the woman.”When you see a snake do you see 'satan'? Do you think that snakes are demon possessed?Quote Then you give a completely different answer:GENESIS…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 19 2007,00:22)Tow,Are you saying the serpant wasn't really a serpant at all but a “allegory” for something else? What is so different between this logic and what I was trying to say regarding the handling of snakes? Man, you can't have it your way all the time. Let's show some consistency here.Well its good that you think…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 19 2007,20:43)If your Father owned a business and then retired and turned it over to you – would you run it differently?Are you saying YHVH has retired? Has He applied for Medicare then too?

Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 19 2007,20:41)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 20 2007,11:55)Do you truly believe if, as your bible says, G-d is love that He would eternally punish people for not believing in Jesus when this is much evidence against his existence?According to Stu there is much evidence against the existence of God, as well. Do you think you will not…[Read more]

Yes but being 'one' why would they be so different in their 'administration'?

Quote (david @ Nov. 17 2007,00:38)Quote Hey and I bet that no one discusses Jesus on an adult swingers forum either.–towYou figured it out. Congradulations. An adult swingers forum has little reason to disuss Jesus. You've actually shown me that you understand the concept.Now, we apply that to the people you call “historians” of the first…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 19 2007,00:06)It seems then, that you believe in a Creator that suits you. You feel free to cut and paste the OT and delete the NT to suit what you personally believe about God. What do you think gives you this right? Do you think that you can believe bits and pieces? Why believe any of it then? That is a precarious…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 19 2007,17:48)I'm not mad by no means at Tow.Its just now that hes replied and made mockery of about everything that I've posted with a rather “Uncanny” attitude. I can clearly see where he stands.Actually you mostly pasted from your link. I was analyzing it and laying open its fallaciousness.Quote I just felt that I should…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 19 2007,07:47)Tow what do you believe God to be? Do you think He is as we are, flesh? Well you know what I mean..a sort of “Superman”?Just wondering because you don't believe in a “spirit” world OR do you?Yes I believe in angels and YHVH.

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 19 2007,17:54)Thats exactly it…the fellowship.I believe that some of the people are very very good people. However they keep trying to push their belief on me. I would that I could believe in what they say but they are just so pressing.That goes against everything GOD is …because he is not Pressing.He stands at the door…[Read more]

Quote (BrutusBox @ Nov. 19 2007,14:48)also i am interested in what other avenues there are in the old testament besides sacrifices for atonement.Go here. About the 7th post down.