Quote (david @ Nov. 21 2007,15:39)Quote Let me ask you david, what do you consider to be a miracle? Now look at many of the miracles of both the Tanakh and your own new testament. Do you know of a single incidence of miracles on this scale outside of these? You again have to remember that these people were very primitive and likely much more…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 21 2007,06:22)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 21 2007,15:12)Would that spirit be 80 or 90 proof? 100%+ ! Until you are ready to give yourself to GOD then you won't be 100%. You don't know God and therefore the Amazing Peace that HE gives which is a high that no man can produce.But you don't know TOW! Hum there is that rhyme again I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,23:36)Quote I'll believe it was more than allegory on both parts when you show me a talking snake and donkey. Old episodes of Mr. Ed withstanding.So, the donkey was also an allegory because donkeys don't normally talk. And all the miracles in the bible are allegories, because miracles don't happen.Is that the gist of…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 21 2007,04:02)Hi SamuelQuote You should let go of some of that Poison that is filling your soul. I don’t mean to butt in when you’re insulting another, but can you explain to me, since you have said it, why some christians make this kind of ridiculous accusation? Ask some challenging questions and all of a sudden the dia…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 21 2007,02:00)Or maybe you believe that we just magically appeared and GOD wondered up and found us here?I really don't care what you believe…but you know what I believe…and thats not going to change…so we should stop talking cause you don't believe me and I don't believe you…all we are doing now is satisfying your…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 21 2007,01:56)I mean surely your not naive enough to think that the only thing GOD has ever created is Man…and all there is is Man and GOD?Did you ever read Genesis? Please reread the first few chapters.Quote I mean look how big the Universe is…and there are more than one universe. Obviously GOD has made other things…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 21 2007,01:49)So let me get this straight…?Your making fun of us for believing in Jesus?And you don't believe in Satan, Jesus, obviously not Hell, Angels?Then I guess if you were not a Man you would not believe in Man either. But since you are a man you have to accept the fact that Man does indeed exist. Hell is 'sheol'…[Read more]

Here was the curse on snakesGen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,21:36)Just to understand, which parts of the genesis account do you beleive are allegory. Where does the allegory start and where does it end. Where they ever in Eden for example. Was “Adam” a real person? (You know, the word “adam” simply means “man” just as Satan simply means “opposer.” It is just as easy to…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 20 2007,20:34)Quote (Not3in1 @ Nov. 21 2007,05:21)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 20 2007,18:48)On the subject of becoming an atheist, I always think of the T-shirt that says “Atheism is the default setting”. I don't believe any child is born christian, or muslim, or communist (although it could be born Jewish, of course). There is no…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,21:29)Quote By the way I'm still waiting on a single messianic prophecy that Jesus fulfilled. Anyone? Just one? 1/2 of one maybe? 1/4? You can find the list of prophecies anywhere. Certain ones have put lists down of these. Your response is mainly to say they are all out of context. Why don't you show us.First set of…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 20 2007,21:29)Quote By the way I'm still waiting on a single messianic prophecy that Jesus fulfilled. Anyone? Just one? 1/2 of one maybe? 1/4? You can find the list of prophecies anywhere. Certain ones have put lists down of these. Your response is mainly to say they are all out of context. Why don't you show us.I already…[Read more]

Samuel,If I came to your door would you let ME in? I think you'd see me to the door faster that the average JW, baptist, or even atheist. The difference is I know scripture both Jewish and Christian.

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 20 2007,20:56)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 20 2007,11:29)Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 19 2007,07:47)Tow what do you believe God to be? Do you think He is as we are, flesh? Well you know what I mean..a sort of “Superman”?Just wondering because you don't believe in a “spirit” world OR do you?Yes I believe in angels and YHVH.But you don't…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 20 2007,20:30)I really don't see where your getting all these GODs from.That GOD uses other means than himself to deliver his message. Because no one can see GOD he is spirit. If you were to actually see GOD…you would not be able to handle it in your flesh body.He uses the Holy Ghost as a comforter to you. He used Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 20 2007,20:24)Who died 2007 years ago on a cross?Uh he was supposed to have died 30-33 CE but what's 30+ years between friends?Quote Obviously, it was a big enough event for the calender to be reset…the slate wiped clean if you will…A new start.But not until 525 CE. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era==============…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Nov. 20 2007,20:19)Why do you call this the year 2007?Cuz that's what my calendar says?

THE FOUR GODS OF CHRISTIANITYFirst there is 'god the father' This god cannot save the world on his own so he must copulate with a virgin and produce a second god, 'god the son' (or 'son of god' take your pick). However this god could not reach everyone while he was here so upon his ascension he sent 'god the holy spirit' who is supposed to be…[Read more]

By the way I'm still waiting on a single messianic prophecy that Jesus fulfilled. Anyone? Just one? 1/2 of one maybe? 1/4?

Pulled this from the trivia threadQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2007,13:27)question……> why did God require blood for the forgiveness of sins.A…. because life is in the bloodB…. because God requires giving up life to be savedC…. Blood is a symbol for our livesD…. pouring out of blood is symbolic for dying to our WILL”S.Well this is…[Read more]