Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 23 2007,12:28)Quote Yeshua is still rejected by most today.Isa 53:3 truly is a prohesy that was fulfilled by Yeshua.You say prove it. You say…Quote Again you must disprove that the servant of Is 52:13 which sets the context for Is 53 is not Israel since it is plainly pointed out in many places that YHVH is calling…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 23 2007,12:28)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 23 2007,00:07)TowMost translations render the word “rejected” not “avoided”.The Hebrew word is “chadel”, which means; rejected, forbearing, transient, fleeting, lackingIt comes from the root word “chadal”, which has the sense of one forsaken.Unfortunatly for David, the NWT…[Read more]

Ah typical Christians arguing over things that should be simple. But since the GT writers did such a poor job of writing since none of them actually witnessed the events what would you expect?

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 23 2007,09:00)Mat 6:7 “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.Wait aren't most Christians Gentiles?

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 23 2007,09:19)Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Who's his father, Jupiter or Zeus? I don't see YHVH in the GT so its pretty much wide open to who 'god the father' is. Jupiter means 'O father god'. That's pretty darn close. Quote Mat 25:29 For to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:27)I don't know. Doing things just because other people do things…or trying to fit in or whatever….it's never occured to me.Like believing in Jesus?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 23 2007,00:07)TowMost translations render the word “rejected” not “avoided”.The Hebrew word is “chadel”, which means; rejected, forbearing, transient, fleeting, lackingIt comes from the root word “chadal”, which has the sense of one forsaken.Unfortunatly for David, the NWT has not truly rendered this word…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:12)Quote He was buried in an unused tomb so how could he be be buried with wicked people?Well two robbers were impaled with him. I'm sure they'd be buried somewhere.But not with him unless Joseph took them and buried them with Jesus. Do I sense more apologetics?Quote Since he was impaled between two evildoers, in a…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:09)Quote The NWT has got to be the worst translation out there. Actually, a couple years ago, this guy who teaches greek wrote a book on the 9 most widely used Bibles. He counted the NWT as the best. He uses our Interlinear translation to teach Greek to his students. I think his name is Jason debuhn.Wow it has one…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:05)Quote Truly? Part of the Christian bible says Jesus raised himself. No, it says God raised him. It doesn't say “Jesus raised himself.” If it does, please show me.Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,19:58)Quote When did Jesus 'carry' a sickness? He supposedly cured sickness but never carried any.And what do you think it means to carry someone's sickness?Again, this is a strong case for Jesus.To 'carry' anything would be to take it upon one's self. He never took any sickness upon himself, he cured them.…

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,19:57)Quote Who despised him? Seems over 2 billion people believe in him.Silly rabbit. Many on here despise you. But does that not mean many more somewhere else do not love you?You are very illogical. There is no denying that ““He was despised.” And there is no denying that many loved him.Odd, for someone who was t…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,19:54)Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 22 2007,15:38)Quote (david @ Nov. 21 2007,16:44)ISAIAH 53:3“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.”Tow, I wonder how t…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:16)Quote All of the suffering servant passages in Isaiah are about Israel. Is 53 is not a messianic passage. Well, just as you have been shown wrong (and very obviously wrong I might add) on all of the above statements, you are clearly wrong on this as well.THIS IS A MESSIANIC PROPHECY. And, remarkably, it fits…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:15)Quote Quoteand with the rich class in his death, despite the fact that he had done no violence and there was no deception in his mouth.”No violence? He sure spoke of it.Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at v…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 22 2007,20:03)Quote he was letting himself be afflicted; yet he would not open his mouth.He most certainly opened his mouth. Go back and read the accounts of his trial.–towYou need to study harder. When being accused, he made no attempt to save himself. He remained silent. He didn't open his mouth.EXACTLY AS IT SAYS, HE WAS…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 21 2007,16:49)ISAIAH 53:12“For that reason I shall deal him a portion among the many, and it will be with the mighty ones that he will apportion the spoil, due to the fact that he poured out his soul to the very death, and it was with the transgressors that he was counted in; and he himself carried the very sin of many p…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 21 2007,16:46)ISAIAH 53:3-9“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.Who despised him? Seems over 2 billion people believe in him.Quote Truly our sic…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 21 2007,16:44)ISAIAH 53:3“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.”Tow, I wonder how this fits in with your thinking?I already showed you in another post.…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 21 2007,20:53)2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Gasp! No I can't be an antichrist! Snore.Quote 2Jo 1:8 Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full…[Read more]