Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2007,12:58)TowYou say…Quote Since most observant Jews raise their children from an early age to read and write Hebrew, I would dare say that your many biased Christian translations are incorrect.Quote Case closed.Correct. Case closed! I am done with this fruitless dialogue with you.Whats the use? If the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 19 2007,00:26)Towshab,Dec. 19 2007,00:16 Quote And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.There are some Christian translations that get it right (or very close)…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 19 2007,00:05)Tow Quote Hi WJ, since this section of the board is not for Christians I can post here. Correct, you are not a Christian, in fact you are not even a Jew. So is this gonna be more ridicule of the Christian Faith? Sure, why not. It is full of conflicts, contradictions and ambiguities so it makes for an…[Read more]

Oh but wait MS, weren't you the one who said Jesus was YHVH? Since the Tanakh is Samael's book, now according to you, then you are saying Jesus=Samael. My my but you are blown around by many winds of doctrine *snicker*.

Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 20 2007,09:35)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2007,20:33)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2007,11:07)Quote (Son of Light @ Dec. 20 2007,11:03)Yes both Jews, Christians and even Muslims serving the God of this world and following his examples in the Old Testament do go around killing everyone.SOL.Evolutionists kill people. Think Adolph Hitler.…[Read more]

Sorry, John was no prophet.Joh 1:20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” Joh 1:21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.”So Jesus says he is, John says he isn't. Sorry to disappoint you, but again you have conflicting stories in your GT.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,19:42)Hi TOW, God revealed enough through His prophets for His servants to be expecting the Son.Reference please, not just your words.Quote Sadly only a few stargazers and some shepherds figured it out.The stargazers were magi. Magi are from pagan cults. So yes, pagans expected their own savior. No prophets of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,19:32)Hi TOW, Did God send angels to speak for Him? Did He sent prophets to speak for Him?God is the only saviour…through many means.Yes, shame Jesus isn't one of those means.

Nick,I thought you'd like it since you are on the side of the renegades who will fail.There was nothing to recognize in Jesus. G-d never said He would copulate with a virgin human female and produce a human son. Such nonsense cannot be found in the pages of YHVH's book, Tanakh. Virgin birth mythologies and gods having human children is the stuff…[Read more]

No, but YHVH said He is the only savior. G-d does not delegate such matters, nor does He share His glory. That IS written.

A proper translation of Daniel 11:14 from Judaica Press14. And in those times, many will rise up against the king of the south, and the sons of the renegades of your people will exalt themselves to bring about the vision but they will fail.The renegades of the Jews are the Christians. After all, they started out as Jews. Christianity then went on…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,18:59)Quote (Towshab @ Dec. 20 2007,11:39)Dcman, Ah, more Christian 'threat-based' rhetoric. I don't believe in your pagan god-man Jesus. I believe there was a Jew named Yeshu the Nazarene, but he was a street preacher who picked up some parlor tricks while hanging out in Egypt. While he was there he seems to have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,18:46)Hi Tow, That is how it is for the lost.Keep searching.'Lost' is a Christian term made up to make those who ignore Jesus out to be looking for something yet not finding. It is just another Christian lie meant to prey on the weak and ignorant. For those who know Tanakh, there is no 'lost'.

This will be my last post in this thread because this is the “Believers Place” or some such so I will respect that, but I wanted to put an end to the misinformation that SOL is bringing.Ebionites were early Christians who adhered to Torah, so throw out the lie about them not worshiping YHVH G-d.Nazarenes were similar but they believed in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,15:41)Hi Tow, The new reveals the fullness of the old.New wine does need new wineskins though.New wine is powerful stuff fit to raise the dead.Sorry but your new wine tastes like Boone's Farms Strawberry Hill.

Dcman, Ah, more Christian 'threat-based' rhetoric. I don't believe in your pagan god-man Jesus. I believe there was a Jew named Yeshu the Nazarene, but he was a street preacher who picked up some parlor tricks while hanging out in Egypt. While he was there he seems to have hung out with some Buddhists as well.Since YHVH is never mentioned a single…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 19 2007,18:03)Quote (Towshab @ Dec. 19 2007,15:23)You guys make many excuses for those who called themselves Christians but yet you won\\\'t own up to where they received their influence: the Christian Greek text (GT). It is very anti-judaic (not necessarily anti-semitic per se), especially the gospel of John. Paul wasn\\\'t much…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,16:19)Hi TOW,You should not write the rules for how God does things.You are not greater than He.And how do you hope to be savedor is intellectual wrestling satisfaction enough?I'm not. You can find the rules in Torah. Your GT cannot override Torah. Deu 4:2 You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,16:04)Hi Tow, Did you think the lapsed catholic Luther and the others who broke off and formed  daughters of the Whore of Babylon have any part in the inheritance of the Sons of God? Your view of history does not show the hidden ones, those who belong to Him, the living God He knows them and they are safe.So how…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 19 2007,15:39)Hi Tow,Blood needed to be shed.No more precious blood to God than that of His beloved Monogenes Son.11'For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.'Many Christians don't…[Read more]