Towshab replied to the topic Jesus#39; Resurrection in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2008,19:25)Hi tow, If Christ was not raised from the dead our faith is in vain.Of that I do not doubt. Continue in vain faith.Quote Fortunately for us there is no doubt about it.He lives and we live because of him.Sadly for you your faith finds no basis in Tanakh.
Towshab replied to the topic Jesus and blood sacrifice in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2008,19:23)Hi tow, So you would withdraw from God and his appointed Lord His sovereign right to forgive because of ordinances written for men.You arrogance and folly knows no bounds. You insult God daily.Idolatry insults G-d. You do that daily. So how do I insult Him? By not believing in a false messiah for my fire insurance?
Towshab replied to the topic Confused in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago
The map of the Tanakh leads in one direction, but there seems to be no place where the map of the GT picks up. Two different maps leading in opposite directions.
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2008,19:16)Hi tow, Just as well we do not follow them. Is satan not the smartest imitator?So Satan imitated Christ way before Christ came along? Yes, yes, that makes sense. Seems Satan is still more powerful than your god.
Towshab replied to the topic The Torah too hard to fulfill? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
I see no temple in Rev 20.
Towshab replied to the topic Why did Jesus die? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Actually, I am wrong. It is a twisted Christian interpretation that is wrong!This is what it says:2Pe 3:8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.Christians twist Peter's saying into believing 1000 years= 1 day when Peter was merely reflecting back to Psa 84:10…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Why did Jesus die? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2008,19:23)We are to have a sense of urgency for the day of Jehovah which is described as “near.” Perhaps to God, who views one day as a thousand years, the day of Jehovah is near.That myth was made up by Peter when it became apparent that Jesus was not going to return in his lifetime. So he had to make up some story that…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Why did Jesus die? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2008,19:21)This day is detailed in the Scriptures as a time of battle, a great and fear-inspiring day of darkness and burning anger, a day of fury, distress, anguish, desolation, and alarm.And, it is often described as “near.”A sense of urgency is attached to the day of Jehovah by the prophets, who repeatedly warned of its…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Why did Jesus die? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2008,19:14)Quote Besides, “the day of YHVH” is not one specific day, but a day of great judgment. You are hanging your hat on a phrase that can apply to several different events. Yes, but do you not think they forshadow a much larger “day of Jehovah.”?Whether they foreshadow or not, the fact is, Jesus' supposed prophecies…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Jesus and blood sacrifice in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
From JPTIsa 53:11 From the toil of his soul he would see, he would be satisfied; with his knowledge My servant would vindicate the just for many, and their iniquities he would bear.This says nothing about forgiving of sins.
Towshab replied to the topic Jesus and blood sacrifice in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2008,19:13)Quote Luk 7:48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”ISAIAH 53:11“Because of the trouble of his soul he will see, he will be satisfied. By means of his knowledge the righteous one, my servant, will bring a righteous standing to many people; and their errors he himself will bear.”Sorry, no forgiveness the…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Why did Jesus die? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2008,18:57)Quote Who considers almost 2000 years later as “soon”? Again, false prophecy.And what of the many prophecies running through “the prophets” of the Hebrew scriptures which speak of the “day of Jehovah” as being “near.”Some even say it is “very near” and there are many such scriptures.List them and we shall discuss…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Here is some more from http://altreligion.about.com/library/faqs/bl_zoroastrianism.htm=========================Zoroastrians believe that time is divided into three ages, those of creation, the current era of mixed good and evil, and the coming era, when Ahura-Mazda will triumph, evildoers will be punished, and the good will go to heaven. It is an…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2008,18:54)Hi tow,Just as well you are here to show the way then? Though the darkness you offer does not compare with the light we carry.And you have no idea about direction having thrown away one map and torn the other and refused the light of ChristYour light needs batteries. Or perhaps a new flashlight altogether.
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Interesting read: http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4zoroa94.html====================================== The similarities don't end with eschatology either. A lot of the tradition and sacramental ritual of Christianity, particularly Catholicism, traces back to Zoroastrian precursors. The Zoroastrian faithful would mark their foreheads with…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Jesus and blood sacrifice in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Again, your reasoning is about secrecy and incomplete revelation. You would think that G-d would want His chosen people to know these things. If that is the way G-d treats His chosen people then you have to wonder.But too bad for you, He did reveal clues about the King Messiah and the messianic age. Jesus fulfilled none of them. So the secrets you…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic Confused in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago
Yes I do find you strange. You ignore what the Tanakh says of the true King Messiah and yet say you believe in total infallibility of your OT. That does not reconcile.
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2008,16:56)Hi tow, You will only accept personal testimony?No, I will accept testimony of the Tanakh saying that the King Messiah will be killed, sent to heaven for at least 1900 years, and then return some day. That will be sufficient.Quote We have the writings of his close disciples.Can you believe or do you need to…[Read more]
Towshab replied to the topic The Real King Messiah in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 16 years, 8 months ago
Show me evidence of this man rising from the dead. I need history not fiction.
Towshab replied to the topic Confused in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago
The wisdom of your god is contradiction and confusion? Yikes, I don't want that wisdom.I provide the GT verses, you ignore them and twist. You're becoming too predictable.
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