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Quote (t8 @ April 09 2013,16:03)

Okay, I will mentally note an extra vote there when I check the poll each hour. BTW, are you interested in taking over Stu's position and argue how existence came from nothing. I haven't found an Atheist willing to put their faith on the line like those who believe in God. I could be forgiven for thinking that Atheists have no evidence. But you can set the record straight and as a favour for all Atheists of the world.

No T8,

I have seen that you are content in remaining ignorant to science. Also that there are some people that you would rather not have in your forum. I have enjoyed my visit to Heaven net but I suspect that I will be leaving soon as well.

There was a time when members could differ in opinion here without ridicule, but no longer.

Tim

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I think it is interesting that Jesus was the son of God,
and Barabas means son of god.

Did this mean that there was no difference?

Tim

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Charity,
I wasn't given a chance to vote.
I just checked to see what the vote tally was and it said that
I had already voted.

I vote NO!

Tim

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Guilty of what?

Tim

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Quote (t8 @ April 05 2013,18:26)

If there were no Biblical texts and other non-canonized letters and books of that time about Jesus, then how would we know about him in the first place, unless man miraculously was able to keep this information accurate and intact in oral form.

That is an interesting point T8.

Thousands and thousands of people followed Jesus around and listened to him speak. They watched him heal sick people and even raise the dead. They saw him perform more miracles than would fill the pages of a book.

Why do you suppose that nobody ever mentioned him in writing? Not even a post card to Aunt Mary about this miracle working man that they saw. No contemperary person or historian ever seems to have heard of him.

Tim

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Well, neither one of them listened to you T8.

Tim

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Quote (Wakeup @ April 04 2013,09:12)

How can you say that the bible doesnt claim divine authorship? Its not just bible;but HOLY BIBLE. The nations use this Holy bible; the laws are based on the Holy bible. Kings and world leader swear on the Holy bible. The Holy bible is used in the courts of justice. NOT THE UB. Without the 10 commandments,the world would be under the law of the jungle,dog eat dog. wakeup.

Wake up,

All presidents are not required to be sworn in on the bible.
Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible when taking the oath in 1901.

John Quincy Adams swore on a book of law.

Johnson was sworn in on a Roman Catholic missal on Air Force One.

Thank the powers that be that we do not base our laws on the bible or we would still be stoning children who talk back to their parents, and non virgin unmarried women, and homosexuals to death. Our laws are much more moral and fair than the laws in the bible.

Also physically placing ones hand on a Bible and swearing an oath is not required nor was it ever legally enforceable in a court of law.

You are prone to giving out an awful lot of misinformation.

Tim.

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Maybe Moses held up a black pole as the yellow fish and the blue fish mated and caused a black fish to be born, like he did with sheep and cattle.

Tim

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“One of the laws in the program is that they will gravitate toward the hand of their creator which is the cursor. At this stage they haven't rebelled against their creator by running away and denying that they were made by him.”

That is a cute program T8.

If you move the cursor the fish will gravitate towards it.
But notice if it sits there doing nothing, they will leave and wander around. Sort of like people do when the Creator does nothing.

Tim

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Quote (Mary @ Mar. 26 2013,10:29)

Its charity! Sorry for the confusion ed J.

I knew that after the second post.
It had to be Charity or her sister.

Hi Chamarity,

Tim

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Quote (Colter @ Mar. 25 2013,06:16)

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 25 2013,05:26) Hi Colter, To most people a theory is just a best guess, an idea. However to a scientist a theory must be tested a large number of times, by many different scientists in a lot of different places, and must pass the test every time. IF it passes, then it becomes a theory. So until scientific theory has been disproved, for all practical purposes it is considered a scientific fact. Tim Tim, Using your definition then the story of Noahs ark is a fact until proven otherwise because a large number of people have tested other facts of the bible and found them to be true, therefore the flood story is a fact. Colter

Now you are just playing games with me Colter.
I know that you are smarter than that.

It matters not what a large number of people tested if they are not testing in a scientific manner. I said that a scientific theory must be tested a large number of times by other scientists, and pass the test every time.

On the contrary, the noahs ark story fails every scientific and geological test.

Tim

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Quote (Colter @ Mar. 25 2013,06:16)

Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 25 2013,05:26) Hi Colter, To most people a theory is just a best guess, an idea. However to a scientist a theory must be tested a large number of times, by many different scientists in a lot of different places, and must pass the test every time. IF it passes, then it becomes a theory. So until scientific theory has been disproved, for all practical purposes it is considered a scientific fact. Tim Tim, I had always considered theory to be speculation based on related facts until the theory could finally be proven as a fact. Colter

There see, you made my point.
Your definition of theory is not the definition of scientific theory.

Tim

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Hi Colter,
To most people a theory is just a best guess, an idea.

However to a scientist a theory must be tested a large number of times, by many different scientists in a lot of different places, and must pass the test every time. IF it passes, then it becomes a theory.

So until scientific theory has been disproved, for all practical purposes it is considered a scientific fact.

Tim

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I eat small clean animals, but I still
don't have the heart to kill them.

Can't even eat something that looked at me
before it was cooked. Am I wierd?

Tim

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Hi Ed,
Did you really call out to Jupiter and he didn't reveal himself to you?

You just don't have enough faith.

Tim

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Hi Colter,

Don't know what TOL is but if stu got banned there he must have been making too much sense. I like stu.

You didn't get banned so you should stick around a while
and give your input down here on the other side of the tracks.
T8 spends as much time down here as he does in the “temple courts”.

Have a great day!

Tim

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Don't leave now Colter, it is a miracle,
You lost your tiles.

Didn't you notice that you had been moved to the skeptics corner and were not allowed upstairs any longer?

Tim

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Quote (942767 @ Mar. 19 2013,02:28)

Hi Tim: You stated that you did not understand why God would hold those who crucified Jesus accountable (if they did not repent) since they were doing God's will. That is not a true statement.  Love in Christ, Marty

Acts 2:23

English Standard Version (ESV)

23 this Jesus,[a] delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God

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If God's only plan for redemption was to have Jesus commit suicide by cop, why will the ones who helped to implement that plan be held accountable?
They were only doing God's will.

This thinking really makes no sense.

Tim

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God taught his chosen people to kill everyone that was not among his chosen people.
Not only that he taught his chosen people to steal from everyone that were not among his chosen people.

Deu 6:10 “The LORD your God will soon bring you into the land he swore to give you when he made a vow to your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It is a land with large, prosperous cities that you did not build.  
Deu 6:11 The houses will be richly stocked with goods you did not produce. You will draw water from cisterns you did not dig, and you will eat from vineyards and olive trees you did not plant.

I guess that God thought that since his people were so lazy, that he would just let them steal what other people had worked hard to create.

Why didn't God promise them some empty land somewhere and let them build it up themselves?
Why did God teach his people that they should kill hard working, productive people and steal what they had made?

How do you learn morals from this teaching?
Tim

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