If God can not save all, is He really omnipotent?If God can save all, and won't, is He full of mercy and grace?Tim

Another interesting note. If you look at the Hebrew interlineary of the actual text,it says. He shall be called ” Marvelous one- Counseling to Master Father-of-future chief-of-welfare”.The Hebrew word al which means “to” was left out of the KJV translation.To counsel can mean to reccommend. So is it possible that Jesus is the marvelous one…[Read more]

Thank you for that very thorough historical trail of the trinity invention music4two.Many people discredit the trinity idea with a few well known verses in the bible, me included.But you have obviously done considerable research for your book.Just one note, if this is a transcript of your book. In one place you said that Constantine banished those…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2007,18:04)Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,21:30)Hi Nick,I did not accuse the men of old of lies, God did.Jer 8:8   “How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made {it} into a lie.TimHi Tim, Jacob and Israel and Moses and all the men of old made…[Read more]

Good gracious Is 1:18 ,How can you argue that none of the bible has been corrupted by statingthat the verse that contend such a thing was corrupted itself.That makes absolutely no sense at whatsoever.:( Is 1:18, you should think about the implications (for yourself) of undermining the confidence of other christians in the integrity of their…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2007,04:05)Hi Tim, How much more of the bible do you want us to remove?It is better to resolve things there rather than rushing to judgement and denying them.Hi Nick,Whose post are you reading?I never said to remove any of the bible. If that is what you got from the scriptures that I quotedfrom Isaiah and Jeramiah,…[Read more]

And by the way Nick. I never accused GOd of lying. Never even hinted of it.Accusing God of a lie only came out of your mind.I am not sure I see how God loving irony has any thing to do with his accusing the scribes of lying, or for saying through the prophets that he never commanded such things as burnt offerings.Tim

Hi Nick,I did not accuse the men of old of lies, God did.Jer 8:8 “How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made {it} into a lie.Tim

Quote (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,18:46)When ever I come accross a debate about the law or the commandments, I without doubt find those with legalistic Western outlooks on the subject. They seem to miss the sweetness, tenderness and fatherly aspects of a God who calls us His children.Perhaps we could benifit from understanding the “law” (torah).  We…[Read more]

Thanks Nick,You just reinforced my point.:) And while you are in psalms,Psa 40:6 Sacrifice and meal offering You have not desired; My ears You have opened; Burnt offering and sin offering You have not required. Tim

Hi Nick,You said “It does not say God did not command them but rather that without circumcision of the heart all other rituals are meaningless to Him and thus useless to man. “Really? Read Jer 7:22 again.Jer 7:22 “For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt…[Read more]

Quote (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,16:27)Quote (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,15:49)Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,15:31)Hi music4two,I never expected that from you.Who is predestined to go to heaven?TimYour right Tim. It was a joke, although I know some who would actually say such things.sometimes these boards get so serious. You need to laugh at it a…[Read more]

Hi music4two,I never expected that from you.Who is predestined to go to heaven?Tim

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 02 2007,02:05)[There should be no exceptions in the scriptures. Or you have a weak foundation to be sure.100s of Scholars, Greek and Hebrew experts have brought us the scriptures.True there may be different interpretations of the scriptures.But NH what if I said that 1 Cor. 8:6 should be thrown out because it seems…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2007,09:02)God does not need a law to work by and men too can live according to righteousness in God's eyes without knowledge of the Law.This wasn't true 3,000 years ago.There were over 600 laws. Any one of which, if broken,would leave you unrighteous in God's eyes.Tim

Quote (Phoenix @ Feb. 22 2007,22:09)Well thanks Nick for showing me this… I guess this just proves why we shouldnt read the bible huh?God playing games with us all? I will harden Pharoahs heart Ahhhhh well then if that is the case then Id be better off enjoying life the way I live it since I most probably am not one of the Chosen ones lol…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Feb. 22 2007,21:23)Tim, do you seriously think Man doesnt have Free Will to follow God or not?Hi Phoenix,The only way that will can be free will is if there is no cause effecting that will.The only way that the will to come to God can be free will, is if there is no outside cause to come to God.We come to God through Jesus.…[Read more]

Hi T8,You said “If the universe continues to speed up, then it must reach the speed of light at some point. If this happens, then the universe's state would have to change to become infinite, or at least come into a higher dimension or realm or merge into the spiritual realm perhaps”According to Einstein, nothing can ever reach the speed of light…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Feb. 22 2007,08:12)Hi T8 or anyone who can helpI am trying find scripture that explains “what God is” instead of the “I Am who I AM”Is he the Universe? or did he create the Universe? Or is he a spirtual being created out of no where?Im trying to find a thread on that question… sorryHugsPhoenixHi,I just posted your quote because…[Read more]

Hi,Every thread, no matter what the original subject seems to return to discussion about the trinity.I was interested in more discussion on the original purpose of this thread.Rom 14:11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.This is precisely when I believe that God will save…[Read more]