why would you want to discredit him when he is supporting God and the bible?Tim

WJ never once mentioned the trinity in those last posts.Tim

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 26 2009,11:00)Tim,Just this afternoon I was praying the same thing, “Why did I study the bible for so long (hours and hours a day), only to come to this place of disbelief?”.  And again…..I heard nothing.I think I heard nothing because I did not fill in the blanks…….I appreciate your support, Tim.  It makes me feel l…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 26 2009,08:43)Yes, DK, the answer to our questions is always, “Trust Him….”.But I simply am having trouble trusting something that isn't there.  Along with being somewhat child-like, I am also a realist.I believe there is a God.  Because I want to.But that belief is just a passing idea with no real structure to i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,13:25)Hi Tim4,God's ways are not ours. Get over itHi Nick,Thank Goodness His ways are not ours.Apparently God gave me, and many other humans, more compassion than He Himself has, if the bible is true.It is difficult to “get over it”.I do not know how brain dead I must become in order to see love, mercy, compassion…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,13:25)Hi Tim4, Where does it say those to be killed were as a sacrifice?God's ways are not ours. Get over itHi Nick,I never said that the 3,000 that moses ordered killed were a sacrifice. I said that Jephthas daughter, and Jesus were.Tim

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 25 2009,11:10)Hi Tim:  Is that what God means that “thou shall do not murder”?The distinction between kill and murder is a pretty thin argument.If someone threw open an unsuspecting persons tent and chopped off their head, it is murder, no matter who ordered it.If they did it to three thousand unsuspecting people, it is 3,000…[Read more]

HI 94,If burning his daughter for a sacrifice was something that God did not approve of, could He not have withheld the victory, allowed Jephthah to fail? This would have taught Jephthah a lesson.Why must we act as if God had absolutely no common sense?Tim

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 25 2009,10:30)What about the written word that says God hates divorce?  Can what God “tells” people really go agains his written Word?I suppose it does…….all the time, even dating back to Mo.What about the written word that says that God wouldnever want human sacrifices.Why did God let Jephtha sacrifice his daughter as a…[Read more]

In this day and age, Moses would surely be considered a madman if hesaid that God told him to kill all of those people.Tim

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,10:37)Hi Tim4, God told Moses to do many things he did not tell others.Throw the stick. Touch the rock. Hold out your staff etc.He obeyed the persional instructions of God. Of course many fools and madmen think they are guided by God.Very good point Nick.If we as humans can not depend on God only commanding…[Read more]

Yes Mandy, you are correct.Plus I have always had very little respect for the concept of ” do as I say, not as I do”.Why would God command us to absolutely not do something, and then command that we do it?Tim

Does His express will countermand His own law?Tim

Yes Nick, But God commanded thou shalt not kill and then Moses said that God told him to have his men kill 3,000 of their own people.Should we believe God or Moses?Tim

Not cleansing Nick, just stating the facts as written.In Exodus 32 it is written that when Moses came down from the mountain with the very tablet upon which God had written “thou shalt not kill”, he ordered his men to put on their swords and go throughout the camp and kill every man his brother, and every man his companion and every man his nei…[Read more]

When God's chosen people wanted to kill a bunch of people, they heard God's voice tell them to.Even though God had just told them, “thou shalt not kill”.It has always been the same, people will hear God say what you want to hear God say.Tim

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 25 2009,03:43)Truth be told – truth divides.MandyTruth be told, it is the misguided belief that one has the truth that divides.We can never have the truth when all we know is what we are told was revealed to someone else.If God really wanted us to have the truth, he would have revealed it to each of us, personally, not…[Read more]

I have a niece that wanted to make a trip to the Holy land a couple of years ago.I mean she really wanted to go. She didn’t have enough money for that kind of trip, but she wanted to go. So she prayed to God to tell her if she should borrow money to go.Of course God “told “ her that she should. There was no booming voice that said, “yes my child,…[Read more]

Nick has a good point.How much of what Jesus said was for all men, as opposed to just His desciples?Maybe there is a reason that having the faith of a mustard seed, we can not move a mountain.Maybe “all men”, even believers, were never supposed to receive anything that they asked of the Father.Tim

And in this corner, weighing in at ………………………………………Sounds like a boxing match.Nick, you do seem to attack the person Gene a lot,instead of merely address his understanding of the scriptures.Tim