Amen!

Hi t8,So you don't think the Son is part of creation? If He's not creation, and He's not God, then what do you say that He is?Tim

Hi Nick,The Word was God.Tim

Hi 94,You bring up a good point that “you shall not tempt the Lord thy God.” It seems some people here have been saying Jesus can't be God because He was tempted. But the greek looks the same in 4:12 and 4:13, and 1 Corinthians 10:13. Different though from stumble in Luke 17:1. In any event, Jesus says it in a way that can legitimately be seen…[Read more]

Thanks Wm So do you guys want to make a list of all Scripture for/against/neutral on this thread or the one I started? Tim

Hi Nick,You say, “So God is more than His Holy Spirit. God is a spirit being of Soul and Spirit. Psalm 11, Isaiah 42.”Again, this is your inference. Stop telling me that all inferences are bad when you go ahead and make them yourself. Instead, let's debate the truth and merit of each of our inferences.By the way, I couldn't tell from your…[Read more]

Hi Nick,John 8:54 -“Jesus answered, 'If I glorify Myself, My glory is nothing; it is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, “He is our God.”It sounds like you have quite big inference from that to, “God is not a multiple personality being but is the Father.” Not that anything is wrong with inferences. The word is meant to be understood.…[Read more]

Not3in1,I already posted I didn't want to argue more about this today, but I think there are an awful lot of Scriptures that affirm His preexistence. I think you have a hard case in trying to show He wasn't a person then. Tim

Hi guys,Well, I listed several direct statements from Scripture that are the doctrine of the Trinity. A simple agree/disagree for each one would be nice.Thanks,Tim

Hi Not3in1,I wasn't trying to challenge you on it, I just wanted to know your view on His preexistence Of course, I do disagree with you, but we've argued enough for one day.Tim

Hi Not3in1,Ok, I think I understand now. Thanks,Tim

Hi Not3in1,So you don't believe that the Son existed as a person prior to his birth to Mary? Just trying to understand your view.Thanks,Tim

Hi Nick,The Word became flesh.Tim

Hi t8,I think you misunderstand the language that trinitarians use. “Jesus is Jehovah” = Jesus it the one and only God, Jehovah.”Jesus/Jehovah is equal to God” = Jehovah, in the person of the Son, is equal to Jehovah in the person of the Father.Tim

Hi Not3in1,Could you please explain? What do you think the origination/nature of the Son/Word is?Tim

Nick,Well, at least add, subtract or rearrange the verses in my trinity sheet so that all can see and know where to look.Tim

Hi Nick,We should understand what words mean.Tim

Hi Nick,Then I take it you agree with all the statements I made? Wow, first Not3in1 agrees that God begets God, now you agree that the Son is God and the Spirit is God. This is great. Tim

Hi Nick,In creation, sharing the same nature does not mean sharing the same being.But there it is the nature of God that He is one. So He can't be divided or split among multiple beings. This means that if Jesus is His Son, then they share the same being.Tim

Hi Nick,Is God a man? Yes, his name is Jesus. So, in general, you don't believe that sons have the same natures as their fathers?Tim