Jesus is Jehovah.

Hi David,”I am the first and the last” has a context? Good grief. YHWH is the first and the last. For anyone else to claim to be the first and the last is blasphemy. I agree. There are many so-called gods. But to me there is only one God.Which of these other other gods does YHWH ever say He needs to achieve salvation, to share His glory with,…[Read more]

Hi David,Paul also tells us the relationship in Titus 2:13 -“our great God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.” Isaiah 43:11 says there is no saviour besides YHWH. But Jesus is our saviour. Jesus is YHWH.Tim

Hi t8,Christ's claim to be one with the Father was understood to mean that He is God by everyone who heard Him. John 10:33. The church, however, is nowhere told that it is God, so I do not believe that. Jesus sets his unity with the Father as the ideal for the church to attain, and this is reflected in the church becoming one spirit with Him,…[Read more]

David,I agree that there are many so-called gods, but for me there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things. It seems to me Paul isn't putting Jesus in the same class with all the so-called gods.David, doesn't it strike you as odd that your religion is essentially “YHWH plus.”…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2007,17:02)Quote (Tim2 @ April 11 2007,16:04)Hi t8,I believe Scriptures that say Jesus came from God.  I believe this means He came out of God (I understand that to be the literal meaning of “ek”).  That's what it means for Jesus to be the Son.  It means He was begotten out of the Father before all ages.I believe th…[Read more]

David,Sorry if my response wasn't clear. I thought I pointed out directly that the Jews did accuse Jesus of being God in John 10:33, and that John 5:18 shows that Jesus being God's Son means that He is equal to God. Tim

Hi Not3in1,Jesus speaks as one person. My point is that Jesus in his manhood is inferior to the Father. The fact that Jesus calls the Father His God does not mean that Jesus isn't also God or that Jesus is eternally inferior to the Father. Jesus is our priest and mediator with God, and as such, it is proper for Him in His representation of His…[Read more]

Hi Not3in1,I believe they all do indwell each other. This follows from the logic that God is not divided. Since God is each of them, His substance is fully shared equally among them without division. But in any event, I think it's safe to infer, that since the Father and the Son mutually indwell each other, and the Spirit is also God, that…[Read more]

Hi t8,Jesus calls the Father His God, and so He is. For as the Athanasian Creed says, Jesus is equal to the Father concerning his Godhead, but inferior to the Father concerning His manhood.t8, I'm not exactly sure what you believe. Could you please explain who/what you think Jesus is?Thanks,Tim

Hi Not3in1,Thanks. I'm glad that you are searching the Scriptures and seeking the truth.What you are saying isn't that far from what the church has historically believed. Ok, it's not the same, but at least you don't believe Jesus is part of creation. Acknowledging that the Word was God himself is pretty good.As far as “God's seed,” I'm curious…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 11 2007,16:07)Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,10:48)t8,I agree that the Father is the source of the Son.  This is the only eternal difference between their persons.Scripture does not say that He is like God.  It says He is God.TimTo Tim2.You admit then that you have no understanding of the word “Image”.Well I can assure you that “…[Read more]

Hi t8,I believe Scriptures that say Jesus came from God. I believe this means He came out of God (I understand that to be the literal meaning of “ek”). That's what it means for Jesus to be the Son. It means He was begotten out of the Father before all ages.I believe that the Father is the only true God. I also believe that the Son and the…[Read more]

Nick,You said, “I believe an image is rather like that which it images.” Thanks for the inference! We can debate its merit later. But for now let's agree that inferences are ok so long as they're true.Tim

Hi t8,John 10:38 shows that the Father and the Son mutually indwell each other. It doesn't explicitly say this for the Spirit, so go ahead and celebrate, but it's a reasonable inference that Christians have made for 2000 years.Tim

t8,I agree that the Father is the source of the Son. This is the only eternal difference between their persons.Scripture does not say that He is like God. It says He is God.Tim

Hi t8,Paul preached the same gospel as John and Thomas. That's why he called Jesus our great God and Saviour. Titus 2:13.What do you mean by divine nature? Is it the same nature as the Father?It's also a good idea not to confuse the truth of these Scriptures because it is written, “The Word was God,” and “Thomas answered and said to Him, 'My…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2007,13:50)Quote (Tim2 @ April 11 2007,13:33)YesHi Tim2, Where is it stated that the Spirit of God is a person, separate from God Himself ?Hi Nick,The Spirit is called a Helper. A helper is a person. Is parakletos ever used of something that's not a person?Jesus calls the Spirit “He,” the same word He uses for the…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ April 11 2007,13:41)Quote (Tim2 @ April 11 2007,09:36)Hi Nick,The Spirit is shown to be a person in John 14:26 and Acts 13:2, among other places.Where does it say that God is only one person?Tim1Cor.8:6…nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father,…     Blessings.Hi Chosenone,”There is one God, the Father” is c…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Thanks for the warning. I'd just like to know what you believe. You're called to share your faith with others, aren't you? So is what I listed above your faith?Tim