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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2007,07:16)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 20 2007,04:35)Tim2,I've shared this senerio before here, but what if your Thomas was stretching out his hands to the Lord and said, “My Lord,” and then stretched his hands towards heaven, with gratefulness, and said, “and my God!”That changes things, doesn't it.  And the thing…[Read more]

But according to you only Jesus is the Lord, right? So to you the Father isn't Lord? Then who is the Lord God? Revelation 22:5.

keep adding to Scripture Nick

No, watch out for heretics with incomprehensible theories like Nick's “Jesus is some sort of vessel for God and was God but isn't anymore.” Or “Jesus wasn't a person until His birth in spite of the fact that He is the first and the last and created all things (John 1:3).”The Trinity isn't pretty clear. It's explicit. Jesus is God. John 1:1.…[Read more]

Not 3in1,I know it isn't pleasant to be rebuked for heresy, but is what God commands His people to do. See how the false prophets are rebuked in Lamentations 2:14, “They have not exposed your iniquity, so as to restore you from captivity.” This isn't a case of holier than thou. Everyone, you, me, Nick, needs to be rebuked for their sin, or we…[Read more]

Nick,You don't listen to the words of our Lord? You will call Him and the Father 2, in spite of His explicit declaration that they are one? Tim

David,Your dismissal of WJ's list of who is worshipped is unwarranted. All of the examples listed are either (1) true worship of Jesus or the Father; (2) worship of Satan and the false gods; or (3) worship of a man or an angel (Rev 19:10) that is quickly rebuked. Now we know from the Bible that it is wrong to worship Satan, his false gods, men,…[Read more]

Nick,Nice of you to ignore the topic of the post, that Jesus said, “I AM.” Of how many of the created/adopted sons of god is it written, “They were in the the beginning, and they were with God, and they were God?” Or to which of them does an apostle confess, “My Lord and my God”? Or to which of them does God say, “Your throne, O God, is forever…[Read more]

Hi Nick and David,Jesus is God. John 20:28.Tim

Yes, I am paranoid. But one can't be too afraid of God. I guess this leads to the question of why you name the website heaven.net. I would change it if I were you.And whenever I see a heaven post, I'm going to scroll by it real quick. That thing is scary.

If you've rejected the Trinity:1. Beg Jesus for mercy.2. Read the Bible.3. Pray.4. Repeat.5. Repent.6. Believe in the Trinity.I know. I've done it.Tim

Not3in1,How many gods are there? If Jesus is God, and there is only one God, well then that makes Him the only God.Nick,Do you have another Lord besides YHWH? You will call on the name of another for salvation, disobeying the prophet Joel? Haven't you read the first commandment? Why are you proposing new deities?Tim

Not3in1,It is not I who condemn you, but God. If you receive a different Jesus, you are not saved. I wrote “pretty clear” in order to reach out to the unbelievers, that they might at least agree with this, and in time see the truth in all its clarity, not because the text isn't clear, but because their sin makes it unclear. Tim

t8,You say, “God and his son are 2.” Jesus says, “The Father and I are one.” John 10:30.Tim

Nick, you think someone other than YHWH is Lord? naaaa”And there shall be no night there; and they shall need no candle, neither light of the sun. For the LORD GOD giveth them light: and they shall reign forever and ever.” Revelation 22:5

Nick, if the Trinity is just a proposition, then show me which of the following are not true from Scripture:1. There is only one God.2. The Father is God.3. The Son is God.4. The Holy Spirit is God.Tim

Actually Nick, YHWH is Lord. Everyone who calls on the name of YHWH shall be saved. Joel 2:32. Do you think Paul was changing Scripture, asserting a different Lord besides YHWH? I don't think the first commandment would allow that.

Not3in1,Jesus is called the true God in 1 John 5:20. Nick and t8,Lord = YHWH. Read Romans 10:9-10:13. The same is Lord of all. Adam,Again, not one verse that says God is one person. If you had read my last post, you would know that the “one (echad) in Deuteronomy 6:4 and the shema does not mean one person but is in fact a word for compound…[Read more]

t8,You're “Heaven”? Don't you think that's a little, I don't know, blasphemous, calling yourself Heaven, and having a glistening Lion for an icon? It's freaking me out. You might scare people away with that. I'd tone it down if I were you. Plus, you know, you don't want to bring judgment on yourself for calling yourself…[Read more]