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    Stu replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago

    While you are at it t8, perhaps you could find one good point in mike's post.Stuart

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    Stu replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,06:53)The post is actually full of good points.“An atheist can only see what is in the material world” is right. But then that applies to everyone, whether theist or not. Faith is the oxymoronic “evidence of the unseen”.But you were claiming this is full of good points. Please give me a second example.Stuart

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    By the way, this material is copied and pasted from here , without reference.Stuart

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    A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity.Classic. These Abrahamists are crazy.Keep going! Very entertaining.Stuart

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2011,13:24)Christianity is a hodgepodge of ideas about Jesus ChristAs is islam.Stuart

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2011,11:05)Princessthis is to Christ to answer,not to men ;1) first you have to believe in him and the word of God his father2) you have to follow him in what he said 3) you have to have faith in him and what he has said 4) you have to love his father,and trust him ,who is his God and ours 5) you have to obey him and…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 16 2011,19:46)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 16 2011,18:59)Who is “we”?Um what?Most people on Earth believe that there was a creator. But whatever, let's say it is all people of the Earth who wore a polo shirt on the 14 of December.Also, you need to read my post again Stu.I said, “When man ignites an atomic bomb is that the explosion some how…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2011,19:33)False analogy does lead to false conclusions, but when we say that God created everything and you imagine that he wasn't smart enough to create processes in order to create everything, then that lack of understanding comes from you not us. Is not God the lawgiver. And is not the physical universe subject to laws.Who…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2011,09:57)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2011,22:49)Therefore when we see a perfectly ordered salt crystal, we should think anyone foolish who does not believe that there is an invisible, intelligent crystal-maker who added the ions in PRECISELY the right order to make that obviously designed crystal….See how false analogy leads to…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,09:58)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2011,18:17)Perhaps the best analogy would be to ask what colour irony is.Something that is made of iron.e.g., that coat of armour is very irony.So the irony is that iron is whatever colour it is reflecting.I didn't anticipate how well my analogy would work.Would you like me to tell you what it…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,09:57)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2011,18:17)It makes no difference to the reality of it how many times I explain it.  You did modify your claims about evolution somewhat, but I don't think you will modify your nonsense rhymes regarding the origins of the cosmos, because I don't think you have the capacity to understand it.Stu,…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    So what if Jesus had not been crucified? Was that it? He had nothing more to do? Shame the Playstation hadn't been invented yet?This is all very shabby thinking regarding what is in any case a fantasy version of history. Only the gullible would believe that the gospels can claim to report verbatim what Jesus said. They aren't even convincing…[Read more]

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    Indeed it is interesting. I would also argue that christianity is a totalitarian belief system, and that teasing out the proportion of “ideology” from “religion” is irrelevant. Islam and christianity are 100% religion and 100% ideology. So what is the difference? Islam is more dangerous in practice because it definitely prescribes a violent…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2011,21:10)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2011,15:41)There is good evidence that there is a significant genetic component.  Separated twin studies show that if one twin has a tendency to particularly devout religious belief, it will be present in the other twin also.That is consistent with god belief having an adaptive advantage for…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,19:53)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2011,02:44)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,20:36)stuyes it was very interesting,but 19 minutes does not cover all.he did not say how many Honest people living now on earth ,and that are in Governmental position  ,ectand the arms race that can obliterate the planet living beingsand the…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2011,20:26)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2011,20:08)God doesn't obviously exist for 46% of Wellingtonians.Maybe that is why we had 2 earthquakes today?………………If Wellington didn't exist for 46% of Americans, then I guess that Wellington wouldn't exist. Oh hang on, maybe the 54% would make it exist?Confused.I know, maybe…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2011,20:32)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2011,20:08)Anyone who claims he absolutely knows there is (or is not) a god is not to be trusted.Upon observing a murder scene, can we trust anyone who believes that there was a murderer?Upon observing the universe, can we trust a person who says there is a god. Well the only thing I can advise…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (princess @ Dec. 08 2011,10:47)Stuart, Some believe that we do not use our senses as we did at one time due to convenience. Testing of new aircraft at one time was a UFO. Astrology was used by the ancients, as does science today. I know you want your 'a' team to top the chart on stats however, religions are not going to disappear any time…[Read more]

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    Stu replied to the topic Godless NZ in the forum Faith 12 years, 11 months ago

    The question about UFOs apparently asked about them visiting us, not about whether they exist. I think visiting probably implies the idea of beings from elsewhere visiting this planet.When you type “physic” ability, did you mean psychic ability? Once again, that has a particular definition that does not imply psychological ability.Life force is…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,20:36)stuyes it was very interesting,but 19 minutes does not cover all.he did not say how many Honest people living now on earth ,and that are in Governmental position  ,ectand the arms race that can obliterate the planet living beingsand the hardships created by those sociopath in the world of government and…[Read more]

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