Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2011,07:13)Quote The answer is so trivially obvious I thought I might give you the opportunity to work it out for yourself or look it up if you have to, without drawing undue attention to the fact of the baseness of your request.But you appear to be keen to broadcast some lack of subtlety to the world.If you remain unable to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2011,09:29)Surely you jest. Just because YOU don't believe the eyewitness accounts is not to say there are none. The New Testament is loaded with them.Where did you get the idea that anyone saw Jesus and wrote about it? You might be under the misapprehension that because the gospels describe Jesus in some detail…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2011,09:31)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,19:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:17)Tell me how, in an overpopulated, overpolluted world where species go extinct all the time, it would be more suited to evolution to NOT kill some of these others who are breathing your air.Can you afford the tuition?I don't pay for snake…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2011,07:22)Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 22 2011,14:06)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2011,06:29)an atheist is a blind man that walks in the dark and everyone around him help him to get around were he want to go ,but most of the time he is scare of his own surrounding, so it need explanation but it as to be suited for a blind…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,11:02)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,09:37)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,04:48)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:38)A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity.Classic.  These Abrahamists are crazy.Keep going!  Very entertaining.StuartNot , quite I am actually demonstrating h…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,11:00)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,10:11)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:09)Stu, believing in good and bad is different to doing good and bad.Many Atheists deny that good and bad exist even though they obviously live by the principle of it's/their existence.So the principle doesn't exist, but they live by the principle.t8 logic…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:57)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,09:59)You posted in the skeptics section.  Why did you do that if you weren't looking for skepticism?StuartCan a person not say something and not have the response be an automatic sceptical answer. Coz that shows an unthinking person, one who disregards all opposing views and sticks with…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:17)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:52)How about you try and work out how I could believe in good and bad and an evolutionary basis for it, and especially how a tendency to killing others could be a very poor adaptation for survival.Instead of me “working it out”, as if I know your mind; why not just tell me?Tell me…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:14)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:59)But it is fascinating to learn about how humans come to believe in nonsense, and to defend those nonsense beliefs so earnestly.And where is your scientific proof that what we believe in is nonsense?There is no such thing as scientific proof. But anyway, you believe a man…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,10:09)Stu, believing in good and bad is different to doing good and bad.Many Atheists deny that good and bad exist even though they obviously live by the principle of it's/their existence.So the principle doesn't exist, but they live by the principle.t8 logic at its best.Still, at least you didn't indulge in your usual…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:40)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,09:22)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:53)If there is no God, then there is no good and bad,I don't believe that. StuartMost  Atheists I have heard do believe that there is no such thing. Good to see that you believe that. Pity you cannot see from which source it came. Again you likely boil it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,09:37)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,16:22)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:53)If there is no God, then there is no good and bad,I don't believe that. Stuartstuyou have to believe it ,you have no choice,just as your big bang story,one goes with the other PierreReally. Stop for a minute. Think. So many christians claim…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:29)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:17)perhaps your own statements might give you a clue as to why non-deluded people sometimes have problems with your fantasy assertions:“Christians are called to spread the gospel to non-believers“But I didn't come to an atheist site looking for you.  Why did you come here to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28)Then WHO, at some time, decided that some things/behaviors were “good”, while others were “bad”?Do you think killing human beings is “bad”?  Why?  As t8 pointed out, if survival is our main evolutionist goal (as if a non-intelligent thing could have a goal), then it should be GOOD to kill other human b…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,04:48)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:38)A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity.Classic.  These Abrahamists are crazy.Keep going!  Very entertaining.StuartNot , quite I am actually demonstrating how people who believe in the same God can have very different v…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:53)If there is no God, then there is no good and bad,I don't believe that. Stuart

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:48)Thanks for your input, t8.What say you, Stu?  Did t8 hit the nail on the head?I've got absolutely no idea what he was prattling on about. I think it more likely t8 hit his head on a nail, than the converse.Stuart

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:46)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,15:31)While you are at it t8, perhaps you could find one good point in mike's post.StuartMy post wasn't meant to be “good” or “bad”.  It was meant to derive an answer from an atheist:  WHY does us believing in God bother you so?  WHY is it important to you to show us our “error”?I co…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:33)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2011,08:17)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,06:53)The post is actually full of good points.“An atheist can only see what is in the material world” is right.  But then that applies to everyone, whether theist or not.  Faith is the oxymoronic “evidence of the unseen”.But you were claiming this is full of g…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,04:48)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2011,16:38)A muslim trying to play judaism off against christianity.Classic.  These Abrahamists are crazy.Keep going!  Very entertaining.StuartNot , quite I am actually demonstrating how people who believe in the same God can have very different viewpoints and yet many or most C…[Read more]