Quote (t8 @ Jan. 16 2012,13:05)Evolution of the horse theory has many difficulties according to http://www.bible.ca/tracks/textbook-fraud-dawn-horse-eohippus.htm.The rib numbers first decrease, then increase suddenly, and then decrease again. Hyracotherium had 18 pairs of ribs, Orohippus had 15, Pliohippus had 19, the horse has 18.The number of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 16 2012,12:41)Stu, you get bogged down in the finer details of things, and completely ignore the more weighty foundation and source of all things.If you do not know how everything started, then explaining things now as disproving a creator is ridiculous in the highest order.Go for it t8.Tell us how life started. Give us the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,11:30)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 15 2012,15:20)Here is an example, from horse evolution, of fossils of species that were going extinct being used to demonstrate the changes happening in the main line of descent:http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional2.shtmlStuart     It's funny that I mentioned horses f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,11:29)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 15 2012,15:14)Darwin predicted there would be found transitional fossils, and that is what was foundProve that, Stu.Today we have tiny horses, medium sized horses, and large horses.Do you suppose that evolutionists a million years from now will consider the medium horse to be the “link”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,11:24)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 15 2012,15:02)With regard to micelles, I've asked you whether you are ready for the chemistry involved in the next stage(s) of the model(s) of abiogenesis………….If they are not truly an example of LIFE FORMS “livening” themselves out of non-life, then why bother?  Because unless they…[Read more]

Here is an example, from horse evolution, of fossils of species that were going extinct being used to demonstrate the changes happening in the main line of descent:http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional2.shtmlStuart

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2012,00:00)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2012,02:38)In the 19th Century the fossil record was pretty sparse compared with today, but Darwin used his theory to predict that further fossils would be found that showed transitions between species, and that is what was found.What archaeologists have found are fossils of many…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2012,00:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 13 2012,20:34)When someone asks you about reproductive capacity don't just start making things up because once you get into sexual creatures how are you going to then explain the simultaneous readiness of reproductive capacity needed to make SEXUAL reproduction necessary?That was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2012,00:16)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2012,19:41)Actually, you asked this:  “I'm asking WHY the first cells would have started to exist with a reproductive capability in the first place.”No.  Actually, my original question was:WHY would this first life form that just happened to live because of the perfect storm of cir…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 14 2012,13:44)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2012,12:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2012,08:45)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2012,00:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2012,12:18)I want to see the fossil of the fish that grew wheels instead of legs.  Of course you do.But it's the kind of request you should be making to a creationist.StuartWhat…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 14 2012,13:34)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 14 2012,12:59)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2012,10:21)Further, when the Spirit was poured out, they were able to understand much of what he had said whereas previously they have little understanding.I find that when the spirit is poured out everything becomes much clearer.StuartOkay, okayI tried to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2012,10:21)Further, when the Spirit was poured out, they were able to understand much of what he had said whereas previously they have little understanding.I find that when the spirit is poured out everything becomes much clearer.Stuart

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2012,08:45)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 13 2012,00:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2012,12:18)I want to see the fossil of the fish that grew wheels instead of legs.  Of course you do.But it's the kind of request you should be making to a creationist.StuartWhat does that mean, Stu?  Isn't natural selection just a mumbo-jumbo of m…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2012,08:40)Absolutely!  And which “science” knows more than the scriptures?  The science of 1000 years ago?  200 years ago?  100?  50?  Last year?Greeks and Chinese philosophers knew far more science at the same time as the writing of the Jewish bible.Every age has had science that knew more than your scripture. It ev…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2012,08:28)Well then you have nothing. Hit me up when you have proof of something that was lifeless coming to life spontaneously and unaided.Do you remember that I was asking how a LIFE FORM not only spontaneously “livened” itself, but did so right from the start with the ability to reproduce itself…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2012,12:18)I want to see the fossil of the fish that grew wheels instead of legs.  Of course you do.But it's the kind of request you should be making to a creationist.Stuart

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2012,10:36)So these are actual, LIVING beings,No.Quote that come to life spontaneously by themselves? Not to life, no, but spontaneously yes.Quote And there is NO other living thing involved? Correct.It looks from those responses like you don’t have the chemistry or biochemistry to proceed any further with current s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,11:05)Quote Chemical micelles, which form spontaneously, can do something that looks very much like a form of cell division. Do they actually reproduce themselves,There is no controlling mechanism of the effect that looks like reproduction, obviously.Quote making MORE of them than there were before? Yes.Quote And…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2012,09:43)Okay guys, I can see that you are willing to dish it out, but not take it.I’m not willing to put up with your dishonesty. Do you think I should?Quote Stu, I COULD look back through various threads, and find the post to me where you called living beings “CREATIONS”, thereby justifying my question about how l…[Read more]

In deference to the origins of this website, I'll remind people that the national religion of New Zealand is rugby union, and its adherents still look somewhat sideways at rugby union players who wear padding. As for helmets, or TV breaks dictated by the networks, or throwing the ball in the direction of the goal, these are intolerable…[Read more]