Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,13:38)Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,00:57)By “proof” Ed means you need to tell him which words or phrases add up to the same numbers.StuartHi Stuart,You need “three witnesses” to establish a matter,Ok then, so Richard Dawkins, JS Haldane and Stephen Gould are “three witnesses” who establish the matter of fact of evolution…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 19 2012,10:15)Stu.Psalms22.1. My God, my God,–( a dying man remembered this scripture and repeated it before his last breath)?No, a gospel writer could have copied it from the Jewish bible because he thought that is what the christian martyr WOULD have said in that mythological circumstance. There is no eyewitness account…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 19 2012,02:00)Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,01:19)Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,03:04)Quote (Stu @ April 14 2012,02:28)Happily there is no evidence of either the god or the judgment. StuartHi Stuart,The problems in the world is God's judgment for the nations turning away form him.The problem for this god, whatever it is, is that…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 19 2012,04:18)Quote Reality doesn't particularly care what you think about it.Stuartstuit should read WE  not YOU , we means all or any of us humansThat's quite true, but I've already acknowledged that for myself.But if we go back to what you claimed:Quote all you say is pure speculation,even today we well know witch…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 19 2012,04:16)Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,07:44)Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:40)Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03)Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39)allyou know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:26)Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,00:46)Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40)The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. ColterNo, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?Speculation?In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,03:04)Quote (Stu @ April 14 2012,02:28)Happily there is no evidence of either the god or the judgment. StuartHi Stuart,The problems in the world is God's judgment for the nations turning away form him.The problem for this god, whatever it is, is that humans have judged the god and are finding that it isn't really there.…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 17 2012,23:10)Quote (Stu @ April 15 2012,22:22)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 14 2012,02:37)Then it took him forty days to write down ten commandments.And apparently before that it took 180,000 years for this god to realise the commandments needed to be published in writing.StuartHi Stu.You can not prove the theory of evolution…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ April 19 2012,00:22)Ed J,From a different thread:Quote (WhatIsTrue @ April 12 2012,21:19)Ed J,I wrote:Quote If I showed you verifiable evidence that the bible got something wrong, would you question the bible or the evidence?…The point is what you would do with such information.You responded with:Quote Debunk it: because I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 18 2012,21:34)Hi david,What about light being emitted from a space craft going at say 1,000 kmh? in the same direction?…asked t8.And at that moment Einstein walked in.Stuart

Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40)The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. ColterNo, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?Speculation?In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of a conspiracy of an Imaginary Tyrant running the universe.Stuart

Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:40)Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03)Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39)allyou know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:36)Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:41)Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50)Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.StuartIs that close to 6,000 years?Timthe creation of the earth is one…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 18 2012,21:41)Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,04:21)No one can know with any certainty whether gods exist or not.  That's why there is such a thing as faith.  We are all agnostics.OK, so you are Agnostic which I said you were a long time ago. Remember this?http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/atheist.htmAnyway, I have to call you out h…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ April 18 2012,12:36)Quote so the time back to Mitochondrial EveMythology was never your strong point, the first female is considered Lilith, not Eve. Lilith would not be subservant to Adam, she was tossed out of the garden and another woman was made, being Eve. LilithFascinating. But Mitochondrial Eve isn't the name I gave…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ April 17 2012,08:37)Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,08:15)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,06:50)Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.StuartIs that close to 6,000 years?TimThat'd be like saying that Adam only lived to the age of about 11 hours…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50)Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.StuartIs that close to 6,000 years?Timthe creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2012,15:02)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ April 17 2012,14:38)Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2012,04:14)If you studied the bible as much as you study those trying to prove it wrong you would be a lot better off.If you knew anything about me, you would know that it was through studying the bible that I came to unbelief.  I read it carefully,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39)allyou know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 16 2012,21:12)And if the Romans had decided not to execute Jesus, then a different story would have been invented.  Or a different martyr would have been chosen to write about.In believing this all to be actually true, I can't decide if it's your immorality or your inability to do joined-up-thinking that is the greater…[Read more]