POINT 5I said,Quote 5.  Christ is the begining and the end,im going to try to organize myself correctly again.CF Definitions.Christ– Whether before flesh, and after ressurectionIs– occupying or existing or existing roleBeginning– The literal start of time, in greek Alpha. End– The literal end of time, Where time does not exist, where the clock…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2010,01:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 06 2010,06:26)i was more focused that God claimed that Jesus created, I wasnt going further calling Jesus is God. (yet)Ok so do you want rebuttals or do you want to continue to point 5. because the point of this thread was to clarify my points right?Ooops!  I copied your post to…[Read more]

What how did that happpen, how did i post under mike

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2010,00:19)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 06 2010,05:57)here is something you didnt mention though.Hebrews 1:10- what do you have to say about that.and lastshould we continue to point 5 or not?Not if I left a point you consider important unanswered.Heb 1:8-13,8But about the Son he says,   “Your throne, O God, will last…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2010,22:31)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 05 2010,19:47)Is God eternal?Hi Dennison,Yes.  Moses says He (not they) is “from everlasting to everlasting”.  Than you just agreed with this,Quote And despite what Dennison tries to assert, none of us know anything about whether God exists “in time” or “outside of time” or “…[Read more]

Mike,I think that this goes back to the thread of monogenes, where someone mentioned dia, i will do research on that,because i have nothing to say to either refute or agree.basically my only option left is to determine what paul meant by “dia” Point is that Jesus Created, Again he is life. Things do consists of him, whether through or not, is yet…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ July 05 2010,19:21)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 27 2010,19:09)Hi All,Lets dicuss these differences if there is any according to scripture,Mistakes and Sins. Is making an imperfect choice based on an individuals own will, a Sin?God cant make mistakes.. so if we commit a mistake its because me made an imperfect choice.Is that a sin,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 05 2010,19:15)Kerwin…………Sin is to miss the mark, of the high calling as i understand it. But there are (types) of sins, there sins of omissions and sins of admissions, sin we are aware of and sins we are not aware of, but none the less sin. The bible separates these, the Sin of (admission) being aware of, and…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 05 2010,14:27)SF: IMO sins have to do with ones relationship with God. Sin is an error or mistake of ones mind that could make him believe that he is separated, for any reason, from God. Sin is a mental mistake. Mans relationship with God is mental. Mans earthly trek is completely controled by man. Only through prayer or…[Read more]

To all, i kindof lost track the thread. been busy.i see that many are already off topic.Here is the basis,are SIN and MISTAKES the same thing.for example,”i dropped a plate and it broke” getting into a car accidentwhile running one trips and falls,a person murdering another person,sins or mistakes,whats the differense????

Is God eternal?

fyi, Mike is ready, just waiting for you kj

Quote Hi Dennison, I think what we have here is a failure to communicate.   I don't want to skip to the end.  I agree with your point 1,2 & 3.  I disagree with point #4.Quote 4.  And Christ has been the source in the beginning. Christ was the master craftsman who built for his God.  His God was the source of everything, including him.So I ask agai…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 04 2010,19:45)Hi Dennison,I do wear reading glasses, but I think it has more to do with your grammar skills than my reading skills.     I see now that the 3 points are linked.Quote 2.  In Revelations expresses God all, that he will be the source of everything, no more flashlights and what not.3.  If God is the source in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2010,22:42)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 02 2010,08:15)So where do you want to start with Matthew 16?put your speculation aside for once and discuss only scripture     And for doing exactly this, Dennison accuses me of “starting over”!   Did you figure out you were wrong, Dennison, and you now want to begin again?  O…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2010,22:12)This is your point #2:Quote 2.  In Revelations expresses God all, that he will be the source of everything, no more flashlights and what not.What is it you're asking me to agree or disagree with?  I seriously don't know.  Yes, God is the source of everything.  Is that it?mikemike,i made observations,i mad…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,05:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:30)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:08)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,16:05)God is a SpiritHi SF,God is a “Holy” God! (Lev.11:45)God is a “Spirit”. (John 4:24)So who is the “HolySpirit”? (Luke 1:35)God blessEd J http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,are you striving to be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2010,07:42)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 02 2010,13:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 02 2010,13:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 01 2010,10:50)Pick your referee Mike. I am done with your diversional methods of debate and I am beginning to question your honesty!WJWJKeith,Good! A controlled debate is the only way with…[Read more]

Quote Your final and ONLY point!     The rest was observation.   SO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK IN SPECULATION!!i think not. i will stick with scripture and observations. Quote Okay, you didn't actually say this in clear English, but do you think Jesus must be God because God is light and Jesus is the light of the world? I guess I'm still unclear ho…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2010,05:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 01 2010,17:32)and my final point for this point, is it says that God will be the light, and not for a moment, but forever. So God is Light. He is a source of clarity.Your final and ONLY point!     The rest was observation.   Okay, you didn't actually say this in clear En…[Read more]