12)Evidence of Intentions FallacyIs when a poster uses intent of the writer as evidence to refute analysis based facts.ex: A-(claim) Jesus is God because (Warrent)he is the alpha and the omega mentioned in rev.22B- oh really? well why didnt the genuis say that in the gospel of John? so it couldnt be true(REally REALY!!!)

Mike are you serious,now your saying my posts are to long?i stuck to one point.each time.i have stuck to the topic each time,and you keep on going about how Jesus is not God and i dont even refute it but go back to the topic.i tried to keep everything short.I have realized i need to stop trying to please you and continue however i want.and by the…[Read more]

Hi All,Well I understand both stands, but I have no idea what you want me to do about it.Do you want me to tell you my opinion or what holds valid.Ill just state from what i have seen so far from the very small review that Mike gave me. Quote Scripture says Jesus has BEEN GIVEN “all power and authority”.  If that literally means “ALL”, then it…[Read more]

let me calrify this again!POINT A- shouldnt even be a point, its a refutation of a point. ITs a point taht doesnt prove anything, but calrify what is valid.Whats valid is that the words monogenes was used for Jesus at a specfic time while he was in Flesh. whats not valid, and only a conjecture is the idea of the word monongenes referring to Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,06:40)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:37)Ed J,That's my pointHi Oxy,Would you then say: they are 'worldly' because of this?Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgim not oxy,Ed J did your forget who i am already?I wouldnt know,God knows the intentions of the heart, only He would know.

Quote (shimmer @ July 19 2010,06:33)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,13:06)How about Good intentions? couldnt you agree such things are worldly as well?No. As long as they are put into action and good intentions do not become bad.Good intentions bring out the greatest evil in this world.everyone believes they are good,unless they are…[Read more]

Ed J,Thats my point

hmm to add, bod!!YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT I DO NOT SPEAK OF ALLAH AS THE COMMON WORD IN ARABIC FOR GOD,I AM SPEAKING OF ALLAH OF THE QURAN WHICH IS NOT THE SAME.thank you,just to clarify

I believe in God, so because i want everyone to be saved i willl force everyone i know to believe as well, by whatever means nessary***AN EXAMPLE!! i dont honestly believe that!***

wow this plural debate is going lol so far.

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 17 2010,23:36)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 17 2010,17:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 17 2010,01:38)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 17 2010,05:38)Quote If God selected Muhammad to recieve the revelation of the Quran his character had to be acceptable to God. The proff that he was/is a true prophet is from the fruit he produced…[Read more]

How about Good intentions? couldnt you agree such things are worldly as well?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2010,23:31)Hi Dennison,Sorry it took so long for this response.  Btw, I didn't call YOU a trinitarian.  I contrasted you from them by saying even THEY (as opposed to YOU) don't think the Father and Son are the same PERSON.I can honestly see how you come to your conclusion.  But you must start with chapter 21, not 22.  2…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 16 2010,15:32)The power of deception has taken a story like the Garden of Eden and used a word that did not yet exist for mankind, sin, that is not even in the story being told and not even used in the Bible for fifteen or twenty years (how ever old the boys were plus a year) and built on it as the foundation of evil for…[Read more]

Do you agree with Tim?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2010,05:58)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 16 2010,21:09)You means Jehovahs Messenger, Can you not deliver your own personal message?can you not be your own messenger?curiousNo Dennison, you CAN'T be your own messenger.One never says, “I sent myself to deliver a message for me”.Rather, they say, “I delivered the message…[Read more]

Hi NickIm curious what do you think about Tk's Coginitive believing abuot sin?about simply believeing abuot not sinning, that sin doestn exist unless we belive it?do you agree or disagree?

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 18 2010,00:47)Quote Sin is not what you do, it is whatever you believe to be sin.This can not be quite true because with Cain he did not believe he was acting wrongly God told him that he was acting in such a waythat sin would come about.If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth…[Read more]

Mike i think you misunderstanding me. Im telling you that Point A is valid as in it would be a conjecture to say that monogenes was used before Jesus was flesh,BUT that doesnt PROVE anything as i said. So for me i dont even see why its such a big debate.Begnnings is a different story. and a different point that is mentioned here and there, and…[Read more]

Agreed WJ,11) Know It All fallacy Is when a poster believes that their intellect is far superior than facts and ignore what they are ignorant about, believing that their intellect is enough evidence to prove everyone elses hard core facts.A: well the bible says this! B: well son, did you know that in greek it means this,A: What? your not smart…[Read more]