Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2010,07:54)Hi Dennison,First, there are many OT scriptures where Jehovah says he will come and dwell among us.  There is at least one that says His reward will be with Him.  So Jesus has never been the ONLY one who will be coming.But why do you move on?  Are you satisfied that 21:5 and 6 are the Father speaking?  If so,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 30 2010,09:10)I like this thread.  Has it turned into a trinity discussion yet?Haha!

my original concern is ch. 22 I do not agree it is only God speaking. because it is jesus. clearly john believed it was him from the start, and in the statements of the alpha and the omega verse. since I believe they are the same I would agree that God is speaking. but when it comes to jesus he calks himself by his own testimony that he is A and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,10:43)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 27 2010,14:56)Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,05:41)Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,23:30)HI SF,That brings up another interesting debate point that is pointless.Asking loaded questions that are meant for nothing more than an attempt to entrap someone into unwillingly agree to something that they…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,09:05)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 26 2010,14:25)Why would God speak in Third person?Why doesnt he speak in First person,There we go!  The old first to third person thing!     Ready?Matthew 24:30″At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They wi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,05:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,15:34)Hi SF, That is from catholic theology not scripture. God does not live in sinners.Hi Nick,Thanks for that.  I here the omnipresence thing alot, but don't ever remember seeing it in scripture.mikepaslms 139

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,05:41)Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,23:30)HI SF,That brings up another interesting debate point that is pointless.Asking loaded questions that are meant for nothing more than an attempt to entrap someone into unwillingly agree to something that they clearly don't willingly agree to!God blessEd J (Joshua…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 22 2010,17:11)“Born again” is an insult to your parents, whom Jesus told you to hate in order to follow him.  Of course that is the myth recorded by whoever wrote the gospels.  There is no way you could pin any of that on Jesus though, if indeed he did really exist.  Decades of Chinese whispers followed by anonymous writing in a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,09:34)Hi SF, That is from catholic theology not scripture. God does not live in sinners.What are you talking about.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,19:10)Hi Dennison,WHAT?!?  I have no idea what that post was about.   mikeim confuse too.what were you taking about?

Stuart, Quote Regarding origins, the problem is with scripture itself though.  Unless you treat it literally, then it can mean anything you want it to mean.  What is wrong with following the evidence wherever it leads?  That is what scientists do, and the answers they reach do not agree with a literal reading of the bible.  So the problem is the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 22 2010,06:26)Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,06:05)SF,This is coincidental that I was speaking with my cousin about this late Sunday evening.Jesus is said to be on the righthand of God. But God is also said to be on the righthand of Jesus…find it in the Scriptures!How can this be, I quipped?He made some questionable…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 22 2010,06:39)Hi:The body of Christ is God's body.  It is through Him that God accomplishes His purpose for this world, and therefore, it is said that He is at God's at the right hand of God.But also:Quote John 15 1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away:…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2010,22:46)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 02 2010,15:25)Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2010,05:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:30)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:08)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,16:05)God is a SpiritHi SF,God is a “Holy” God! (Lev.11:45)God is a “Spirit”. (John 4:24)So who is the “HolySpirit”? (Luke…[Read more]

By Dieing

Quote I will bold God's words:3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,21:48)No, Jesus isn't THE God.   I already know the reason you'll say it has to be two people talking, but I want you to say it so I can scripturally refute it.So………Why does it “distinctively” call for two different persons?mikeBesides the point. The Point is that Jesus is the one referred to the Alpha and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 23 2010,06:04)Wow Dennison!First you applaud WJ for “entrapping” me with a “loaded” question and then imply that we can not take the whole of scripture into account to help us figure out what is really meant in a certain passage.   Well, as a Christian, I disagree with both of your opinions.  Entrapment is deceitful and I…[Read more]

Unless you want to agree Jesus is the God

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 22 2010,09:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,18:56)you want to talk about Rev 21. ok quickly1.  verse 2 states that the new jersulem came from God out of heaven, verse 3 states that a voice of heaven spoke to him. 2.  verse 5 states that a different person is speaking, the one who is speaking out of the throne, the w…[Read more]