I tried typing something several times, I have realized im without words.I feel the same way,all I know, to live in todays world, only works if you are without God.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,21:17)Hi Kathi,I think the revelation you had 16 years ago is profound.  God said “Let there be light” and it was Jesus.  Then he said, “You are my Son, this day (time period) I have begotten you”.And from that moment (or “day”), Jesus was both God's Only Begotten Son and the Light of God's creations that were s…[Read more]

MikeQuote Hi Dennison,That is a cool realization, brother.  And it's worth a closer look.mike Thanks, I hope so.  I just like how The two reach the same point.  Oh by the way somwhere you mentioned that Jesus was created or begotten when God said let there be light. What makes you say that? Curious?PEace,DavidbfunQuote Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Au…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 08 2010,17:15)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,05:09)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 07 2010,07:46)I agree and I will confess, I was upset over something on the forum, , I felt like a change, so I changed my username, I'm really karmarie But Yes, this forum can hurt people at times, alot of the behaviour is unchristianlike and…[Read more]

To add Kathi,did you know that Hebrews write in a certain way?for example they give you the big picture first and than the details.For example in chapter one it says God created man on the 6th day male and femaleYET on the second chapter it detail how God created adam, and how eve came from adam.This happens many times within the scriptures.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,05:56)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,04:55)Well Duh!  Everyone knows that one.  I think, therefore I am.Is that right O wise one? mikeoh i dont know you could be a woman for all i know, and super old.Hi Dennison,Are these “fluff” posts your way of saying you have no s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,05:54)Hi Dennison,The evidence points to the one who is seated on the throne saying he is the Alpha and Omega.  That one is God.  Is Jesus the one seated on the throne anywhere in Rev?  No?  Okay then, it is not Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega in 21:6.  Do you agree?mikeDisagree, there is a throne to the lamb who is Jesus.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,03:55)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,05:22)Its like i say something, show u proof, show u what i think and why i think it, and the only thing you say is that,thats not enough, oh thats wrong, just because i believe it so is not truth,without giving me any explaniation of why you disagree.and as soon as you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,04:55)Well Duh!  Everyone knows that one.  I think, therefore I am.Is that right O wise one? mikeoh i dont know you could be a woman for all i know, and super old.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,04:31)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,09:06)dude you already lost this point. Its obvously talking about Satan. And it says his ways are perfect. Ezequiel 28:15 Perfecto eras en todos tus caminos desde el día que fuiste criado, hasta que se halló en ti maldad. Mike im starting to see everything you believe i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,02:04)Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 08 2010,07:20)Mike,Put you finger here: Ezekiel 28:15, and see the verse: “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.”Hi JA,Ahh…..I see.  I don't read the KJV – it's too hard for me to even understand what it's saying.     Bu…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 07 2010,23:48)How interesting,I think SF's along with Gene's and mike's input has just about covered the major bases concerning opinions on Christ.Oh, yeah, and there is JustAskin's!   Gene ——- }        {   SF ———  }  —   { Truth   Mike ——-  }        {   JustAskin—  }        {Who is closer to the Truth?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2010,22:57)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,04:21)It does not say that God is the alpha and the omega in 21:7, it says the one sitting on the throne. Yes he did, i already clarifed that John does believe that it is Jesus due to what he said in his last statements in 22.I did prove scriputreally that it is Jesus.Just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2010,19:25)Hi Rm,I see a few problems here.  First, Jesus was never “God in the flesh”.  Jesus has been the Son of God since he was begotten before all the ages – not God Himself.  God hasn't made any “intelligent” being that scripture says was “unable to sin”, or “perfect”.  If I'm mistaken, show the scripture whe…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 07 2010,06:42)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 07 2010,16:25)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 06 2010,23:34)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 07 2010,02:10)In my Debate with Mike we have comepelty streched this arguement to the max, the question is Who is the Alpha and Omega mentioned In Revelations?My stand is that The Alpha and the Omega…[Read more]

Here is what i stated to mike in our Debate.about the words being omitted in.Quote Hi Mike,I see why they have the death grip on you,because you hold anything as truth, and you try to squeeze out any way you can when someone makes a point that you disagree with or when you feel cornered.  I will use also Reina Valera as another translation text.…[Read more]

You SAid these things that im clearly refutingQuote The One who is seated on the throne in Rev is Jehovah. The Lamb takes the scroll from that One, remember? So again, this is the Father speaking.Rev 22:13 NIV,13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.This one causes lots of debate. The Father starts…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2010,19:41)Hi Dennison,But your claims of “I believe it is Jesus……so there!” don't really mean anything.If you could go through Rev and find one time that (for some odd reason) John doesn't refer to God as “God”, but instead uses that word “God” in referrence to “God's Son”, then it would be worth a closer look.This…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 07 2010,07:46)I agree and I will confess, I was upset over something on the forum, , I felt like a change, so I changed my username, I'm really karmarie But Yes, this forum can hurt people at times, alot of the behaviour is unchristianlike and should be addressed.Oh Wow,You could have told us this before!!!!hmph…

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 06 2010,23:34)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 07 2010,02:10)In my Debate with Mike we have comepelty streched this arguement to the max, the question is Who is the Alpha and Omega mentioned In Revelations?My stand is that The Alpha and the Omega is claimed to be Lord Jesus according to his words in revelations.1.Revelation 1:8…[Read more]