should i add another fallacy?stating what is not said in scriptures,or stating an idea that is not said in scriptures as an refutation to what is said in scriptures. for example: Shimmer qouted:Is 43:10 Mike said it doesnt say beget, or pro create and somehow thats proof to refute what shimmer said. REallly?is this not a fallacy? I find this…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 22 2010,20:45)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 22 2010,17:32)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,04:51)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2010,11:39)To All………Our life is like a light in a House it is God's Spirit that is the source of Power in the house, if he turns off the light at the source the light go out and no longer…[Read more]

The Lord is echad, which means complete, union, not the number one. Its not the numerical value, instead the unison, or the compelete perfection of God as our Lord.

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 22 2010,21:52)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 22 2010,19:01)In your previous post in reference to 22,You stated that the one coming quickly is God correct?and if thats so why is it presented that John's own testimony, expressing that Jesus is the one coming soon.To come quickly. And the Angel gave reference to Jesus and Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I already know your summary, and I gave you mine that God starts talking in 21, then John goes with the angel, then God finishes talking in 22, then Jesus starts talking.We did the “summary” thing pages ago.  Since then, I've been trying to get past the first couple of verses in 21, so we can use that context to find out who's talking…[Read more]

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Hi Mike,Its more like a summary tactic. let me list some scriptures than how God and the Lamb are mentioned togethor21:22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 21:23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the…[Read more]

In your previous post in reference to 22,You stated that the one coming quickly is God correct?and if thats so why is it presented that John's own testimony, expressing that Jesus is the one coming soon.To come quickly. And the Angel gave reference to Jesus and Jesus alone for he was sent by Jesus. Yet the Angel for himself told him to worship…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 22 2010,04:19)And finally, we have this scripture:REVELATION 22:12-13““‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Aĺpha and the O·méga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”It is evident that a number of persons are represented as speaking…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2010,05:15)http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575355311122648100.htmlQuote from the above page is in blue below.'How can we stop the oil gusher?” may have been the question of the summer for most Americans. Yet for many evangelical pastors and leaders, the leaking well is nothing compared to the threat posed…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Aug. 20 2010,07:16)Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 20 2010,09:07)Quote (mikeangel @ Aug. 19 2010,23:14)Forgive me all. I have a very simple mind. David- As far as I know, perfect means without flaw. Complete means whole. So as far as being complete I totally agree with you. To believe in Gods son makes one complete.   Ed-Same thought,…[Read more]

THx for stealing my Thread!

Wow what is going on here… agh… taking breaks are not good.Lets see JA, im asking you to simply put things in order and when you see someone taking advantage or being unfair, or playing games and repeating the same arguements again as if it was never answerd, thats when you step in.  butttttt this isnt the case when your asking to put in end…[Read more]

Hi All,I have missed any repsonses that were directed towards me. but to claify let me respond to david firstDAVID:You focus to much on Rev 1, There are many sources and other languages taht do express the Alpha and the Omega,REGARDLESS if it was or not, because its debatable and never really will have a conclusion. The last two verses in Ch21,…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,04:51)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2010,11:39)To All………Our life is like a light in a House it is God's Spirit that is the source of Power in the house, if he turns off the light at the source the light go out and no longer exists. Even so with us if GOD retracts the Spirit (the source of power) the body is…[Read more]

Please Prepare your Closing Statements. Send it to me by PM,ill post them at the same time.Thank you, And i Hope this somehow has help you guys understand eachother or settle any differences,or at least enjoyed discussing this topic.Much love,

Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 12 2010,23:44)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 09 2010,19:31)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 06 2010,22:42)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 07 2010,02:13)I have seen many claiming that God the Father Jehovah is the source of life.But there are others as myself and Kj, which i think i saw him mention in the debate with Mike, that Jesus is a…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 11 2010,02:22)SF, Call me “Judge Dread” but “JAudge” is good too. (Ha – you should have called Edj to be judge then you could have called him (you got it already) “Judge Edj”!Please can you both post a list of 5 points (or as many as you can manage) that point to who you each claim is on the Throne along with your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2010,05:41)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 09 2010,14:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 09 2010,06:31)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 09 2010,07:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,05:56)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 08 2010,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2010,04:55)Well Duh!  Everyone knows that one.  I think, therefore I a…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 09 2010,22:53)Quote (martian @ Aug. 09 2010,21:04)Paul says that all that is required to be saved is that we believe in God and that Christ is the messiah and that he physicaly rose from the dead. I believe that Trinitarians or not can do that in their hearts regardless of their idea of the Godhead.Hi Martian and Dennison,I…[Read more]