Hi Kathi,1. Than again, the bibles states that sin entered through one man, and that we are all redeemed by one man as well. Paul makes many comparisons between Adam and Jesus, and also calls Jesus the second Adam. So how was Adam not in the exact representation of Gods nature if he was created in Gods image?And also, we are also predistend to be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 03 2011,10:21)Of course Jesus is an angel. Malak means messenger and it can be applied to heavenly creatures as well as man.Malak is not a race or species as some think. It is an office.If we want to talk about races or species of heavenly creatures then we have Cherubs, Seraphs, and others and of course in scripture they are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2011,05:58)Guess what?  Angels in heaven are ALSO spirit beings.  Now, we have three different things that are ALL spirit beings.  What makes two of those things “angels” while the other is NOT an angel?  (Hint:  For the answer, look above in my post.)mikeWhat Angels in Heaven Mike??? does that include mose…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 03 2011,03:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2011,07:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2011,22:34)Paul calls him an angel in Gal 4:14,…mikeNo it doesn't!It mentions an angel of God and Jesus. The text in no way says Jesus is an angel.Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2011,22:34)and asks which one of the angels God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2011,00:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,20:47)So the word angel though it means messenger is not always in reference to only a messenger but to identify a certain race.Hi DennisonExacty! Mike doesn't get that. He thinks that words have only one application or meaning, well that is he thinks that Hebrew…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,08:34)Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2011,21:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 02 2011,20:35)I disagree with you, so PROVE your theory.SFi am not in accord with what you say so prove it PierreSee how it sounds, D?    “I don't agree with you, SO PROVE IT!”  Anyway, what's left to prove?  Jesus IS a spirit being, and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2011,07:54)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 02 2011,20:20)Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2011,12:15)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 02 2011,00:35)Mike you also state that Angels are referred to “sons of God” to KJ several times, so this cannot mean that you define angel solely as “messenger”?SFyes in the book of Geneses and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,07:27)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,20:20)also, there are several scriptures that speak of angels who dont deliver a message, so therefore what are they and why are they called angels?There are also loads of scriptures that don't deal with King David actually ruling on anything.  Does that mean he wasn't…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,07:24)Hey Jack and Keith,WHERE ARE YOU GUYS?  You sure didn't waste any time jumping on D's thread to post against me.  Why aren't there any posts from you guys in this thread supporting me?    Surely you guys don't think Jesus IS the Father, do you?mikeLol Mike,The only reason you wanted me back and the rea…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,07:22)This is very simple, D.  If you are claiming “the Father is in me” is proof that Jesus IS the Father, then the fact that the statement mentions TWO should be enough.But if you don't understand that, then the scripture that shows that the Father will also be “in us” should be enough to show you that “in me”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,07:16)Okay, let me get this straight.  You agree that Jesus IS an angel, because he spoke the message of God, right?So now what?  Are you now trying to say that Jesus is NOT a spirit being?  Because the last time I looked into it, Jesus is both a spirit being AND a messenger of his God.Don't these two facts co…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2011,12:15)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 02 2011,00:35)Mike you also state that Angels are referred to “sons of God” to KJ several times, so this cannot mean that you define angel solely as “messenger”?SFyes in the book of Geneses and Job they are called sons of Godbut it seems wen they are send to men they are now…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 02 2011,05:34)Hi Dennison,You ask a familiar question but you actually might get it when you read the answer.  You get that the Arm of the Lord is the Son, right…well God portrays Himself as the God with the outstretched Arm.  He includes His Son together with Himself when He speaks of there being no other God.  He do…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,05:52)So Dennison's wording about “god the angel” is not exactly how I would have worded it.  But now you know the truth of the matter, like it or not.  Jesus IS an angel of God because he spoke the message of his God.  And Jesus IS a god, because he is a powerful ruler.peace and love,mikeMike,You very well kn…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,05:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,13:37)If that passage says he wasn't Jesus Christ then it also says he isn't an angel.That's EXACTLY what Paul is saying.  Even though just a man, he was welcomed as an angel, like he was the angel of God, Christ himself.  So now it's time for the clarification of “…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2011,04:53)Hi D,If you did say that, my very first thought would be:  “What?  The President is not a billionaire……………I don't get it.”Hello Mike the white wizard,Well I dont believe the President to be a Billionaire sooo unless someone is ignorant over his finances at the moment, it would be an error to say s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2011,00:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,00:05)I like the KJV better which better presents my point14And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.Clearly these two things are not the same. Consider Matthew 10:40The Point is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,21:46)Quote (Paladin @ April 01 2011,10:50)The fact you disagree does not mean I have not responded.Boy does that sound familiar!  WJhahahahaha niceeee

im not ed,

Mike you also state that Angels are referred to “sons of God” to KJ several times, so this cannot mean that you define angel solely as “messenger”?