Quote (JustAskin @ May 25 2010,04:53)SF,Good post – I think your tiredness showed in your post though. I could feel it even without you saying so.One thing: – We don't need a 'special' verse, a pebble, to throw at Trinitarians – The WHOLE of Scriptures is a MASSIVE BOULDER and they have been rolled over with many times aleady.It is only because…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ May 24 2010,18:53)Simply forgiven…Dennison)Sorry I hadnt been following this thread (theres so many here on trin/anti – trin) so I didnt know what id posted had already been covered.In answer to your question on these verses..Quote John 16:7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 24 2010,18:07)Hello SF,I see your 'light' on…go to bed.  What time zone are you in?  Quote But i dont get that procreated? so Jesus was begotten before he was made flesh? Why do you think that the Son is called the Firstborn of all creation in Col 1?Col 1:15-1715 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all c…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 24 2010,16:02)Quote In this case, the Jews are saying that Jesus is trying to make himself God.in other words, im thinking they are viewing jesus like this crazy guy in the streets saying he is God. –SFQuote So the jews believe that Jesus was saying that he was God?Was Jesus saying that he was one with God? –SFSF, I believe…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2010,15:32)sfi am concluding from your answer to my respond to you that it is useless to continue this conversation ,you can discredit me if you want you have already started ,by quoting what you did but this is yours and your way so be it .i will no longer interfere in your quotes in any subject.bye my friendPierreI…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 24 2010,16:37)Quote I been trying to really refer to scriptures about the throne the holy spirit.  and just like you have said, Holy spirit doesnt need one, its in you.God never meant for man kind to be seperated from himself.The whole point is for God to be your everything,and that he is even inside you.–SFSF, is this the…[Read more]

Hi All. I took a great deal of my time, to study many of your comments. And i know its for JA, but i would also like to intervene if you dont mind. But i hope it adds to the thread. I will start by responding to the most intresting points person by person so look for your name.  And i will qoute most of what you said, but its alot, so i might…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ May 24 2010,19:00)This is the post that you are referring to, to be not understandable to you , is that what you are saying to me in your last post??  I read all again and trying to figure out where it is that you got so upset with me.  Tell you the truth I hate it when someone is upset with me and I can't sleep then and I am s…[Read more]

What does Deuteronomy 6:4 say in Biblical Hebrew. I literally took at my hebrew bible and started to translate, im going to give you the transliteration form, which is:~Shema yisrael Adonai Eloheynu echad~”Hear o Isreal Lord, Our God, Lord, (*is) One.”*We cannot translate is into english from Hebrew. it has to be added.Shema- is self explanatory.…[Read more]

When i mentioned this idea, I was purtaining it too…. more of a profile, to understand what the other person believes.lets say im debating t8 or Nick. and we are debating about a subject, wouldtn it be easier to, look up their name and see with what they agree and disagree on so we can seee why they are defending or attacking a point. Its up to you.

Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2010,04:23)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 23 2010,17:13)Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2010,03:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 22 2010,15:05)Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2010,11:00)SFyou say;;The word does not say that we must obey the son to be saved. it says first to believe, have faith, to live a relationship with Christ (and…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ May 23 2010,20:07)Dear SFJohn 14..(YLT)9 Jesus saith to him, `So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I in the Father, and the Father is in me? the sayings that I speak to you, from myself I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 23 2010,05:44)There are many threads on the holy spirit.  I really wanted this thread to be about Matthew 28:19 and to discuss whether this is “proof” of a trinity.Agreed!Sorry i think that was my fault we got into the whole off topic mess, when i first responded to your posts.

Quote (Arnold @ May 24 2010,09:01)To Simple Forgiven and Just Askin!    To prove the Scriptures is not a child's play, which you two seem to make.   I am gladly stay with Nick and Terrarica.  Nick is a Administrator here and you have no respect for that either… sham on you…..sorry David, but I needed to reply to those people….IreneIrene, you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2010,03:31)SFyes i am choosing my words the best i can ,but if you do not understand it ,it is not because of me.i say what i mean and believe and do,you are intellectual  ,i am spiritual,we may have a problem ,like the pharisees and the apostles.if you want to ignore my comments that is your choice and wrights.we all…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ May 24 2010,08:45)Don't worry you will never hear from me again, you are the biggest fool that I have come across….we have been around a long time …..so I do know what you are and what I have never encountered….Its not the hearing from you what bothers me. Its more as, seeing your post makeing no sense bothers me. for me, you…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 22 2010,13:27)Quote arnt they both moderators?T8 (aka, "heaven") runs this joint.He has allowed Nick (who generally believes the same things as T8) to moderate.  Nick is on here a lot more, but T8 is on here a lot more regularly, steady.)They are both moderators.T8 and Nick differ on certain subjects:T8 believes that Jesus is a…[Read more]

I think i need to apologize to Nick Hassan,Apparently there are other people that are worse.I rather pick whats less complicated.

3:13… im getting close….

hey David,Im referring to this. Quote Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 21 2010,07:19)Quote (david @ May 14 2010,02:14)Let's look at this in point form:POINT FORM:-The Bible doesn't say the holy spirit is God.DavidAnd none of the above negates that the Father and Jesus himself can do all those things and become all those things you speak of.Are you…[Read more]