Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2008,23:42)Hi shania,Do you not believe Jesus died like other men?Did his spirit not return to Gpod as ours does? And how does this idea fit with Rom 5″ 8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” And Rom6 where we are shown to be joined now with his death that we…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2008,12:35)Hi shania, Good stuff. But the spirit of Jesus left him at his death.John 19:3030 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished .” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. NIVLuke 23:4646 Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit .” When he had…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 16 2008,17:17)Is the 'mind of Christ' related to the Spirit of Christ?Those were my questions.ThanksAdamHi Adam-I think the Spirit of a person influences their mind. The Spirit that is in you is who you are. The mind is controlled by the Spirit.The Spirit of Christ is always submitted to the Spirit of God. They are one…[Read more]

The mind of Christ and the Spirit are two separate things, but very closely interwoven.  You see, it is the mind of Christ that gives access to the Spirit of God, which knows the mind of God.  For only the spirit within a man can know his mind.  It is the same with the Spirit of God.  Christ is of God, we are of Christ.  By taking on the mind of C…[Read more]

Eph 4:1-64:1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit— just as you were called to one hope w…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 15 2008,12:43)Hi Sis Shania,So God is the one working according to His will and for His good pleasure in us. He is the one who draws us to His family. We can not choose God by our so called free will. What we have is only influenced will which is very very limited. No one can choose God by His free will, if so why many have…[Read more]

I have read many comments in this thread about those who do not believe in eternal salvation- that they are relying on their own strength to save themselves and are basing doctrine on fear.  A popular idea is that if man had a choice to follow or not, that would remove God's power to save him.  Let's look at this verse:Matt 19:23-2623 Then Jesus s…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 15 2008,06:49)I agree brother Nick and 942767. But we are debating the doctrines that are invented by men in God by interpreting same scriptures. If the scriptures are so clear why there are confusions in understanding them?That has to do with flesh and pride. You see, we don't think like He thinks. Our ways are not His…[Read more]

Quote (Theologian-and-Apologist @ July 15 2008,01:00)Forced love is an impossibility.Amen! If love is not a choice, it is not love. Our God is not a manipulator.

We are Jews. We are adopted.

WJ-That was awesome. Very clear. Amen:D

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,05:11)What Paul  it would be impossible to restore them to repentance (IF) they fell away.  And then later he says he is (confident of Better things concerning them) To deny their ability to remain faithful would be to deny the Grace of God Himself .Heb 6:9-129 Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,05:54)you are caused to love your husband if your married, by what He does and you cause him to love by what you do. It has nothing to do with (FREE) Will at all. Both Science as well as psychologists agree that every thingTrue love is does not operate based on what one is getting. In other words, if we are to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,05:54)Shania…..Big difference between Will and (FREE WILL) a free will has no influence on it from any source at all. It is totally neutral, which is an impossibility, all will is the result of cause,Hmmm… Where do you get this? Is it in the dictionary? I would think that “free will” means that you have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2008,08:04)Nick….where does it say reborn men can continue to walk Carnally,  if they do then they were not reborn then. The mind of the man of God is not the same as a carnal minded person.Heb 6:4-64 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 02 2008,12:10)Again you people are confused with will and free will, choices and free will. No body can help you.What is the difference between will and free will? Jesus had a separate will from the Father, and he chose to obey the Father's will rather than his own. This was a choice that he made from the love that was in…[Read more]

Hi Gene,Yes, we are saved by grace .  This is not of ourselves.  This is a gift.  It was His favor on us:Rom 5:6-86 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates his ow…[Read more]

What I have understood from Chosenone is that we are not under repentance anymore- under grace. I disagree with this because we are saved by grace through faith. Faith is belief. If we believe Him, we will obey His teaching. We will come out of sin and walk in HIs ways. We will walk in the light. This includes repentance. Repentance means…[Read more]

Gal 5:66 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love . NIVFaith is expressed through love… What is love and how is that evidenced?John 14:21-2421 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my F…[Read more]

John 6:2929 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” NIVExcuse me? Belief is a work??