As we all knew, God answers prayer!Seeking

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2009,08:47)Seeking said:Quote As has been asked of those with trinitarian convictions in the past, show one bible passage – old or new testament – that SPECIFICALLY talks of a trinity regradless of the trinity version you choose Appoliarian or not.Seeking,God is a plural unity. Even Gene who is a non-trinitarian agrees…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2009,02:06)Thinker,You opt to prove a doctrine NOWHERE contained in scripture;not even in “select” scriptures.You use a “select” scripture to establish mutual involvement in the resurrection ignoring the plain statement as to who raised Jesus from the dead.Mat 17:23 and they will kill him, and he will be raised on the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2009,02:38)Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 30 2009,09:26)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 29 2009,11:35)Why is it that the translators used “world” in only three places? (1:2; 9:26; 11:3) Could it be that they were interpreting and not really translating? Was it possible that “world” is really commentary on their part?thinkerThose of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 30 2009,18:32)Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 31 2009,08:19)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 30 2009,12:11)Of course isn’t this true concerning anything about God? The Father never does anything without the Son and the Son never does anything without the Father and the Spirit proceeds from both of them.I wonder why?   Blessings…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,16:04)There is one BIG problem with yor analogy. You cut down the tree with your Son. But Christ's Father did not suffer and die with Him. .thinkerThinker,I could have as well gone on vacation and my son complete the job alone. When I returned from vacation my neighbor would compensate me for the completion of the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,16:04)Quote Seeking,First, I found the post inwhich LU said that “it is good to recognize the Son as God.” So I stand to be corrected. However, you did not indicate in the post who said it.You certainly contributed to the misunderstanding.thinkerIn desperation you get your facts wrong and misrepresent people as you…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,14:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,09:13)Hi tt, The other side of truth does not include a trinity God. Scripture does not teach any such thing.Nick,Did you notice that Seeking acknowledged that the Father calls Christ “God”?Seeking said:Quote So, you can see that it is good to recognize the Son of God as…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,14:16)Seeking said:Quote So, you can see that it is good to recognize the Son of God as “God” while at the same time recognizing the Father as greater than the Son and actually the Son's “God.”  The Father is the Most High God, the Son is not given that titleSeeking, I appreciate the progress you are making in…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,13:48)Seeking's statement above infers that the Holy Spirit is the literal “father” of Jesus. The physical “reality” is that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and not the Father. So the term “Father” in reference to Christ's relationship to God was a figurative expression.I would reverse the analogy. God,…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,13:39)“Why was Christ rewarded and seated at the right hand of God?”Will you refuse your reward?Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ–by grace you have been saved– Eph 2:6 and…[Read more]

Thinker,I will be in prayer hat God gives you and your friend (employee) wisdom to do what is best for all.Seeking

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2009,13:17)Hi S,I certainly believe that only God can change the minds of men on matters that tradition has fossilised in them.But I came here loving the bible and in conflict between what it taught and what men taught about God as a trinity and seeking wisdom on whether or not the trinity idea was true. This site…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 30 2009,12:11)Of course isn’t this true concerning anything about God? The Father never does anything without the Son and the Son never does anything without the Father and the Spirit proceeds from both of them.I wonder why?   Blessings WJLuk 1:34 And Mary said to the angel, “How will this be, since I am a vi…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2009,11:26)Hi, Winning debates was the entertainment of fools at the Mars hill.Salvation found through obeying the Word is rather more helpful.Yes Nick. As you have observed before, we post here in an effort to clear things for the curious reader lest they become misled. Winning debates is the trophy of men.

Hi,Nick points out this discussion is about the trinity. It seems other discussions continue in a vain effort to prove the trinity. Nick, your point is well taken that since the trinity is unscriptural it cannot be proven from scripture.Nonetheless, trinitarians believe the trinity is taught in scripture and the discussion goes on. As I said…[Read more]

Quote To All,Seeking is still stubbornly saying that Proverbs 8 teaches that Christ was a co-creator. What a wonderful example of, “ignorance is bliss!”  No where in my last post do I or any other people who posted reference  Prov.8.  But, if it is in “Thinkers” mind thus it is so, he believes.Quote And Seeking offers many statements in which Ch…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 30 2009,07:18)Seeking said to WJ:Quote Note carefully the text you cite says, “This commandment have I received of my Father.”  The father took resposibilty,issued the command, and the son obeyed.Seeking's hypothesis: “The father took resposibilty,issued the command, and the son obeyed.”Real life experience: The Father…[Read more]

Quote To All,Our brother Seeking is trying to argue from Proverbs 8 that Christ was a co-creator.Quote So far all Seeking has been able to produce for his theory that Christ was a co-creator with the Father is a statement that attributes the preparation of the “ages” by the Father and the Son (Heb. 1:2).Yet I have offered clear statements from the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 29 2009,23:13)Quote When Jesus said that He can do nothing of Himself He meant that He always ACTS AS ONE with the Father. Let's see if Seeking can explain how he can believe that the Father assumed the full responsibility for our salvation when non-trinitarians universally say that the Father and the Son act as ONE…[Read more]