Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 05 2009,08:30)Seekng ………My point was we are not taking Jesus' yoke he had on Him that yoke never left Him, we are taking on a same kind of yoke he has on him. And that is to yoke with the FATHER as Jesus is also. peace…………………….geneThank you for the explanation.Blessings,Seeking

Quote YokeעלHebrew WordThe Hebrew word ol means “yoke”. Because of a passage in Ben Sira (Ecclesiasticus), the Jews of first century Judea called a system of teaching — how a sage studied of Torah and interpreted of Torah, the parables and sayings he shared, and his practical lifestyle — a “yoke”. This is what Yeshua spoke of about himself in…[Read more]

YokeעלHebrew WordThe Hebrew word ol means “yoke”. Because of a passage in Ben Sira (Ecclesiasticus), the Jews of first century Judea called a system of teaching — how a sage studied of Torah and interpreted of Torah, the parables and sayings he shared, and his practical lifestyle — a “yoke”. This is what Yeshua spoke of about himself in Matthew…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2009,02:26)Seeking replies:Quote I beg of you a scripture for this one.  Sounds like gospel according to Thinker.Seeking,I have answered this a zillion times now. Paul learned while imprisoned that service to the law is purely according to spirit now (Rom. 7:6).  Thinker,In your opinion you have answered “a zillion” t…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2009,15:38)Quote Paul baptized before he was imprisoned. While in prison he received his new FAITH ALONE gospelThough Paul was imprisioned several times, I thought I would see what he did and wrote regarding baptism during his jail experiences.COLOSSEIn him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2009,15:38)Paul said that when he became a man he put off “childish things.” Those were the things of the old covenant.thinkerThinker,Quote Paul baptized before he was imprisoned. While in prison he received his new FAITH ALONE gospel. I beg of you a scripture for this one. Sounds like gospel according to Thinker. 1…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2009,09:09)Nick,Paul's gospel was not the same as Jesus' gospel. Jesus commanded Israel to “repent and be baptized”. Paul taught faith alone to all men of all races. The “repent and be baptized” gospel of Jesus was interim for Israel. Paul's “faith alone” gospel is everlasting for all races of men. blessings,thinkerWhat…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2009,01:33)Seeking,I am saying that Paul's gospel was new. But you said I am saying that the gospel will “change”. You said:Quote that What the Greek language by its tense is saying is that…the message  of salvation has been revealed in the past, it is being revealed now, and unless the Lord comes It will be revealed…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,15:31)Please don't misrepresent me on this subject again.cordially,thinkerThinker,Thank you for the gentle spirit in your response. If I misunderstood you and misrepresented you, I stand corrected and I do apologize.I was certain you have said in the past Paul said his gospelwas “new.” Now I am undestanding you…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Jan. 01 2009,22:28)Gen and Nick!  You are both getting ridiculous with getting on each others throat. You are Christians? Come on you both know better. Even if you use Scripture Nick you are still accusing. Please stop it it is not befitting you.Peace and Love IreneThanks Irene!

Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 02 2009,16:00)Meerkat,Thank you for being candid. I am striving to find the “love walk.” For a long time I was persuaded that one had to be “right” with perfect doctrine, right dividing, and the usual jargon.My experience in these groups is that their pundits are rude,unkind, judgemental, etc. One day I reallty settled in…[Read more]

Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 02 2009,14:02)Quote IMO God is not holding a church register in heaven, with how many communions taken, and if you are baptised.Meerkat,Got to agree with that. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this…[Read more]

Meerkat,You share some good thoughts here:Quote I agree with Gene that there is a difference between love for God and obedience out of love and it being from the heart, which is the love that God wants (worship in spirit and truth) and adherence to physical rites and rules (baptism, communion, church going, do not kill, do not commit adultery) out…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,11:30)Thinker said:Quote The present tense verb “revealed” has no reference to past action in the Greek or in any language.  Seeking replied:Quote Bold statement without fact or foundation.  Granted, I only studied Koine Greek for two years, still I will restate:the Greek present tense differs from ours in that i…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,09:51)Thinker,You said,Quote The majority text says “the gospel of Christ. The NU text just says “gospel” or “glad tidings”. But it doesn't matter for the discrepancy presents no doctrinal problem to us.This could readily present a problem for the “new”gospel theory if we chose to adopt, “the gospel of Christ” as…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,02:58)Thinker,I am really trying to piece things together as you do and understand. RO 1:16-17 NIV I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 02 2009,02:58)Note Paul said “is being revealed”. This means that Paul's gospel had not been revealed before then. Paul said that the gospel he preached was “NOW” being revealed. This means that Paul's gospel was NEW. I have given these statements before Nick. I guess I will have to keep repeating it for…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 31 2009,10:41)Seeking said:Quote James is simply illustrating that performance must equal proclamation and, on the part of demons, it does not.He is in no way saying performance saves.  Grace savesSeeking, James said that Abraham was justified by his works,Quote Was not our father Abraham justified by works when he…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 31 2009,14:27)When did Jesus teach salvation “apart” from the law? Jesus required that men obey the law in order to be saved.And when did Peter teach salvation apart from the law? He said that a man must be baptized to receive the remission of his sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. But Paul taught no such…[Read more]

Marty,Quote Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.  You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.(Jam.2;18-19 NIV)James is simply illustrating that performance must equal proclamation and, on the part of demons, it does not.He is in no way saying performance saves.…[Read more]