Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 25 2009,09:29)Seeking said:Quote Again, I look forward to moving into more solid understandingand look forward to your reply on Trinity Two to my post.Seeking,I scrolled all over the Trinity 2 thread and cannot find the post of which you are speaking. Could you please help me with the exact date and time or paste it here?…[Read more]

Quote But Jesus said that if a man lusts for a woman he has committed adultery with her already in his heart. He may not take action and physically lie in bed with her. But Jesus still calls the desire in itself to be sin. My take on this would be that I see an attractive women and for an instant admire her physical beauty.  Then, I move on…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 24 2009,15:22)Seeking,You got things mixed up my bro…Thinker, Perhaps I did mix things up.Let me just lay out my understanding best I can and we can go from there.It begins here – “Jas 1:14  But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. My inordinate desire for fame, let's say causes me to…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 24 2009,11:31)Thinker,No! Or I didn't make myself clear. Satan banked on Jesus using His power to satisfy His hunger. Jesus would not do so.I am not at all saying that it would have been sin to satisfy His hunger. In each temptation Satan relied on the avenues that scripture makes clear – fleshy desire – lust of the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 24 2009,12:04)To Him be dominion forever and ever. AmenLightenup and all other encouragers,Thanks for the uplifting posts!!Blessings and Peace to all,Seeking

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 24 2009,09:26)I am also a Preterist but was labeled a “heretic” on a board before that.Thinker,I do not know the proper thread for me to unwrap your understanding.  I was trying on “What God Cannot do.”I don't know if I make myself clear or if my posts sound as if I am trying to understand, but that is where I am coming…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 24 2009,03:08)The devil tempted only Adam and Jesus. There is no record that the devil tempted anyone else and the Bible does not teach that he tempts anyone else. Besides, the devil was cast into the lake of fire in AD70.All temptation comes from withinPaul wrote that there was a “tempter” that 'Tempts” as I understand…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 24 2009,07:42)Four thousand years ago, God is said to have actually spoken to people, using their language, in an audible voice. Does anyone actually have that happen today?I certainly never have. And even when I have felt that God lead me to something, it just happened to be something with which I agreed anyway.TimTim,Yes!…[Read more]

Thinker,I am trying to put it together here.  You said rather emphatically –“The desire to sin NECESSARILY gives birth to sin.”Then you presented – I am just telling you what James said. He said that when desire has conceived it gives birth to sin.The mood is indicative. If he meant that desire might  give birth to sin he would have used the s…[Read more]

WJ, Thinker,What is your understanding here – Jas 1:13  Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God, for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. My dilemna – if Jesus is God he cannot be tempted but we apparently agree that he  was tempted.  Is this a part of “emptying himself?”Seeking

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2009,18:19)I've got to go with Nick on this one –Nick thinks: It does not say desires always are followed Thinker says –Oh yes it does Nick. But it does NOT!It says, when desire conceives it gives birth to sin. Just as Thinker posted. We know that every encounter (intercourse if you will allow me) with sin DOES NOT…[Read more]

Quote They want to say that he was tempted to commit adultery or rape or incest or to steal or murder, because if “tempted in all points” like we are means evil lust or desire then Jesus would have had to have every temptation that all men throughout all times had in order to overcome in all points and to be the perfect sacrifice for them.The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 23 2005,03:17)Actually kernch I want to go further and say my response was arrogant and sarcastic and rude. It was unjustifiable and I need to look at myself. Thank you for the wakeup call.Hi all,A lot can change in a little over three years. We all should examine ourselves from time to time!Seeking

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 23 2009,17:01)Hi To All my Brothers and sisters in Christ:Quote Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned Quote 2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2009,14:26)Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 24 2009,08:13)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2009,11:34)Seeking said:Quote You have stated the very reason the Father could not/would not comply.But Christ's request was not sinful. That's what I am trying to show. If it was sinful, then Christ could not have even asked because He had no…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2009,11:29)Corinthian said:Quote OOPs, I wish there was an edit function. I meant to say: Good points, Thinker, I mostly agree. There is an edit function at the top of your post at the right side. I did not discover it immediately myself.thinkerCorinthian,You may have to go to the “Chat, Feedback, Help” area and ask T8…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2009,11:34)Seeking said:Quote You have stated the very reason the Father could not/would not comply.But Christ's request was not sinful. That's what I am trying to show. If it was sinful, then Christ could not have even asked because He had no sin. Do you believe that Christ's prayer was sinful? A simple “yes” or “no”…[Read more]

Nick wrote – Hi S,This is not a competition so as tim suggested take the gloves off.Truth is the goal.ContextActs25And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. ……..36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2009,11:08)Hi S,This is not a competition so as tim suggested take the gloves off. Truth is the goal.ContextNick, That went over your head as usual. That suggestion and comment was directed to YOU!And in this corner, weighing in at ………………………………………Sounds like a boxing match.Nick, you do…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 23 2009,10:47)Amen Mandy! Are you familiar with the song about His coming in the clouds? Not sure how it goes but you reminded me of itQuote There He is….in the clouds! Love to you,Seeking