Quote (Gene @ Mar. 07 2009,23:15)Gene,If I understand right then, there are basically to influences,GOOD and EVIL. Depending on the one I follow, the god of this world or the Creator God, I will make certain choices.Is that about what you are saying?Quote YOU ask what did i ever learn from Good or Evil experience You must be kidding how could…[Read more]

Quote Seking,Yes, the Gentiles were justified by doing by nature what was contained in the law when the law aws still in effect. This is not now the case. Justification is by faith alone now.thinkerThinker,What necessitated the change.  If the sacrificial system was working for the Jews and the Gentiles were enjoying success as law keepers?NO!…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 08 2009,03:49)Seeking wrote:Quote He does not “stink” like us because he did/does not have the stench of sin on him.  Clearly, Jesus had a dual nature as one with God who could not sin and another in which he took on the form of a man in which he did not sin.What you are saying here is not as clear as you might think it is.…[Read more]

Quote As far as you saying i am (FREE) to make my Choice , wrong, you are not free to make any choice since you will always chose the one the influences you the mostI believe I said, Quote Am I free to make my influenced choice based on “my desire” or does God compel me to choose based on His desire (will)?It seems you are saying that,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 07 2009,09:36)Quote Jesus said he came to set the captives (FREE) from what?, there INFLUENCED WILLS, and in another scripture is says HE LED A HOST OF CAPTIVES , CAPTIVE. Men are in a state of captivity by there thought which effects their thinking and consequently their WILLS And Choices. Help me follow along here. Does…[Read more]

Quote Seeking,While Jesus a boy and “learning to be submissive” did He ever sin? If you say “yes” then He is not the savior of men. If you say “no” then you infer that He mastered sin apart from the indwelling Holy Spirit. For He did not receive the Holy Spirit until He was a man. Either way you go you testify to the words in the book of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 06 2009,23:34)Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 05 2009,05:36)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 04 2009,11:18)Gene wrote:Quote Thinker……….Thats the whole point, Jesus could have failed because he could be tempted, but he didn't, so that leads to the question Why did he not fail? The answer is that GOD was in Him after He recieved the HOLY…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 07 2009,00:47)Seeking…………Jesus said (NO) MAN (CAN) come unto me unless the FATHER DRAW HIM. that should answer your question, true Faith is also a gift from GOD. Seeking ask your self why do men want to change that, into so-called (FREE WILL) Choices in the first place. Is it because they want to be a GOD unto…[Read more]

Quote Jesus' words were old covenant. Paul was the administrator of the new covenant (2 Corinthians 3).Heb 9:14-15  how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that…[Read more]

Quote But what about the period in Jesus' life before He was filled with the Spirit? Jesus did not receive the Spirit until immediately before His temptation. Did He therefore have the ability to sin before that? What about when He was a boy? Did He have sinful desires that needed to be subdued when He was a boy?JESUS AS A BOYLuk 2:40  And the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,14:48)Quoting thinker –Quote But none of it can justify a person. Only faith can justify.Did you not contend that Paul taught Gentiles were justified by doing by nature what was contained in the law?Rom 2:13-14 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 06 2009,14:45)Quote But none of us keep it perfectly. Therefore we're all condemned. Rom 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. Rom 8:3-4 For God has done what the law, weakened by…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 06 2009,09:31)Seeking………Not sure what you are saying or driving at, but the issue of a so-called free will has been descuessed Here extensicely before, you can find the thread a read my as well as others commit. Let me Just say this to you Free Will is a creation of religion , the is not scripture that says we have a…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 06 2009,14:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2009,08:04)Hi Not3, What are the commands of Jesus?You must be born again of water and the Spirit.Seek ye first the kingdom of God.As.. seek.. knock.Love one another as I have loved you.Do this in memory of me.Abide in me.Give….This is probably the single most important post I have…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 06 2009,09:23)Quote The whole truth is you Hate the fact its GOD (ALONE),THAT CREATES Righteousness in us>BY GRACE and Has nothing to do with our so-called (FREE WILL) I observe you have not repplied to some of my questions. I do hope you will share your thoughts with me on these queries.Rom 16:26 but has now been disclosed…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 06 2009,09:52)Seeking said:Quote I am still unclear about what you are referring to as an “erroneous translation” in Mat. 4:23.Seeking,I was talking about Matthew 4:15 which according to our English Bibles the word ethnos is translated as “Gentiles.” From this erroneous translation many think that Jesus' Galilean ministry…[Read more]

Quote Seeking,You say “hogwash” and “eisegesis”? Then answer this. Paul said,Quote For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were AROUSED BY THE LAW were at work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death (Rom, 7:5)and,Quote For these are the two covenants; the one from Mount Sinai which GIVES BIRTH TO BONDAGE (Gal. 4:24)Paul…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 05 2009,17:02)Quote “THE LAW ENTERED THAT SIN MIGHT INCREASE” What is your reply to this inspired and infallible statement?thinkerMy reply to this inspired and infallible statement is a big AMEN!Quote Moreover, the law (Moses) entered that sin might increase (Rom. 5:21)My reply to this uninspired, fallible statement is HOGW…[Read more]

Reader be aware BEWAREQuote For sin shall not have power over you, for you are not under the law (Moses) but under grace (Rom. 6:14)Rom 6:14  for sin over you shall not have lordship, for ye are not under law, but under grace. Quote For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law (Moses) were at work in our…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,15:42)Quote The OT LAW was never given to the gentiles-only to the Jews.Rom 2:14-15 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their…[Read more]