Quote First, where does the Bible say that angels have wills of their own?Quote Posted: Mar. 24 2009,11:11  Hi tt,Angels have wills and some are in chains because of that fact. Thinker, you left this point made by Nick unchallenged and responded,”Quote Your point being…?  If you doubted the statement, that was the time to challenge it. From y…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2009,00:22)Seeking said:Quote Help me here.  If Steve's truth is only half the truth and,therefore, according to your logic, “a falshood” –  what does your  “truth” statement add up to since it too is only halftruth?  Another falsehood?Hi Seeking,I acknowledge that the Father was Christ's God. I accept also that the Fat…[Read more]

Quote Thinker: Gene,In a previous post you admitted that Jesus had a will of His own. Therefore, Jesus was much more than a mere “messenger” that carries a message. For a mere messenger has no will of his own.Quote Nick:  Hi tt,Angels have wills and some are in chains because of that fact. Thinker responds: Your point being…?thinker Quote Nick…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 24 2009,13:26)Quote (Mr. Steve @ Mar. 25 2009,08:06)To the thinker; Jesus said his Father is his God.  That pretty much clarifies the relationship between God and Christ.Greetings Mr. Steve,And the Father addressed His Son as God (Heb. 1:8). So your truth is only half truth. And a half truth is a falsehood.thinkerThinker,He…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 23 2009,16:45)John was commanded to write to the angels of the seven churches Kerwin,1.To the angel of the church of Ephesus write….2.To the angel of the church of Smyrna write….3.To the angel of the church of Pergamos write….4.To the angel of the church of Thyatira write….5.To the angel of the church of Sardis…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2009,15:11)Quote I am not sure why it cannot be ignored since I do not see how it is relevant to the gospel of Jesus our Lord and in fact it is merely a point of history for the Christian Church; much of what is either unknown or hearsay. In this case scripture does not tell us how John's letter of prophesy was sent to…[Read more]

 Quote It says that John was banished on account of the word of God and account of the testimony of Jesus.Negative!  You have refused to acknowledge what the word says regarding Paul's treatment as a “Roman Citizen”, his own appeal for fair treatment.  It says he was on Patamos.  Nothing about banisment whatsoever.  You are not making bani…[Read more]

thinkerQuote But John was banished for preaching. Why would the authorities banish him for preaching and then allow him to speak? The Scripture expressly declares he was banished for preaching,Quote , John your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance of jesus Christ, was on the island called Patmos on account of the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 22 2009,08:22)Quote Seeking,This whole subject has gotten comical now. You have made it thus!Quote You speak as if yours and Gene's theory is not a “mailman” theory too. Do you think that John was permitted to check in and out on the ferry boat from Patmos to the mainland and back everyday? Banishment to an island was a…[Read more]

Quote Seeking,I want to say that I am surprised you are contending with me on this issue rather than with Gene. My interpretation of the seven spirits is my reply to Gene's view that the seven spirits are “elohim” (powers). Gene's view creates a big problem for the non-trinitarian view. I strive to side with scripture and they that hold to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 21 2009,08:26)Quote so I hardly think they were some invisible spirit beings, as thinker and Nick portrays them. IMOGene,I wold be in total agreement with your opinion.Be blessed,Seeking

Quote Seeking replied:Quote Where in scripture do you learn this?Where do I learn what? Where do I learn that John was exiled to Patmos? Or where do I learn that free communication was disallowed? Be specific in your question.Brilliant as you are at untangling webs, I just knew you could do it here.  It is obvious where you learned he was exiled…[Read more]

Thinker writes –Quote John was in exile and not allowed to have visitors. Where in scripture do you learn this?Quote Why was the number of churches and the number of spirits the same? There were seven churches and seven spirits.Is not the number seven used frequently in scripture to denotecompleteness?  You also tie the angels of 1:5 to those in…[Read more]

Quote How did the seven churches in Asia get the book? This is not a trick question. John obviously wanted the letter to be read, apparently aloud,and expected the hearers to repond by “keeping” what was written:  Rev 1:3  Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written i…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,14:30)Hi S, Remember the judgement of the sons of God in Mt 25 and the return of the Spirit investment God demands of them. Rebirth into Christ is only rebirth and some branches do not prove useful.Gal419My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,Nick,Ok! So now we have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,14:25)Hi S, Being reborn into Christ is not the last event. Christ must be born into us. That process is of yelding to the Lordship of Jesus Spirit and walking in his way by grace.Only by that Spirit are we found useful branches in the vine not to be cut off and cast into the fire.Nick,Thanks! I thought that was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,12:04)Hi S, Yes it is impossible to do anything useful outside of the vine and the fruit can only come as an expression of the Spirit within us.Nick,Did I say something to indicate contrary to your post?Are not all born again, Spirit filled, Spirit led believersin Christ connected to the vine?Do not the passages I…[Read more]

Quote Hi S, There are more steps for newborn sons.Walk-the jewish converts wanted to go back to the babyfood. Let the Spirit rule-man loves to maintain a semblance of control.Nick,Sorry, I don't understand how this relates to my post at all.What do you mean by “more steps”?  More than the Church of Christ material contains or what?  I expressed i…[Read more]

The outpouring of the Spirit was not a “one time, one day event. We see the blessing continuing throughout the book of Acts and it continues today for those with Biblical faith that adhere to the promise of god to all flesh.”Only by the power of the Spirit can one put to death the deeds of the flesh. Rom.8:13 For if you live according to the…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Mar. 20 2009,04:57)By grace through faith in Christ we are saved, not by ourselves so no one can boast.Ephesians 2: 8 ” For by grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.             2: 9 not of works lest anyone should boast.Peace and Love Ireneuk 17:10 So you also, when you have…[Read more]