God bless you shimmer, I hope the works I do definately glorify God indeed.—–t8, I don't know who you're addressing in your post, and davidbfun I don't know where you are coming from either.It seems Kathi and the rest understand clearly what is being said.—–The Word of God, is YHVH revealing himself.So everything we can perceive of The Word…[Read more]

The Word of God belongs to God, yes…That's why it's The Word OFIt doesn't BELONG to Jesus Christ because Jesus IS The Word of God… he belongs to his Father YHVH.Irene said nothing wrong, fact 90% of what she said is scripture.Plus the whole purpose of The Word of God is to REVEAL God…which is why Jesus said he is not to speak of himself, but…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,09:13)I think that if God lost His cell phone in the closet, He would beat on the door I think we are similar.  I equate the word with the Son.  The Son is the begotten God.  The Father is the begetter.Amen, I like to read it like this but means the same thing nonethelessThe Son is God RevealedThe Father is the Revealer.

You speak as if you're disagreeing with me, but your not.Quote God did not become a man and will never be a manYHVH The Source did not die on the cross.The Word of God, which is the express, perfect, reflected image of The Source…died on the cross.——–Quote He made man in His Own image.  Jesus is the “express image of His Person”.He made…[Read more]

I revised my post, to pick at it, point by point so you can clearly see that you are in 100% agreement with me.

Great analysis and I do not disagree with you.but the comparison and point of the analogy between God and The Us Gov was completely missed.——–The point wasn't to compare the righteousness of God compared to our Government…the point was to anylize how God deals with mankind…in that being God, how does he interact with us, and how are we to…[Read more]

Elaborating the closet analogy might help a bit better.——If you went into a closet in an unkowable location.No one on earth would know you exist for you cannot communicate with ANYONE.——Now if you grabbed a cell phone and called the president, the president would now be aware of your existance.If you instructed him to broadcast your…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,07:24)Hi RokkaMan,That was ceative and thought out.  Wouldn't that make Jesus the representation of God instead of the representation of His nature?  Why can't He have just had a Son…simple.  Maybe He couldn't come as a man because that would mean that He would have to give up His power and then if all things ar…[Read more]

I'd like to add to the above post…at the end you stated…Quote It is also true that God condemned Isaac to the flames at his father’s hands to advance his plans to save as many as could be saved from the more deadly flames of the lake of fire.This is just outright untrue.for if it were true…what would make God any different than the b…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 13 2010,16:01)Rokkaman,You sound arrogant.  God looks for reason, Isaiah 1:18.  Do you think you are superior to God?  Listen to Jesus and be careful what you say.Real reason is truth and thus to reject one is to reject the other.  Be careful and use the reason God gave you to test everything you hear and believe for tru…[Read more]

Quote Your hypothesis about David and his men sounds reasonable.Again, i'm not looking for reason, only truth.I believe these were the same points Jesus was trying to point out, even the point about doing good works on the sabbath.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2010,15:24)Hi RM,This is some stuff from ny debate with Dennison.Quote Hi Dennison,From Wikipedia,In the Book of Revelation, it reads “I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.”. The first part of this phrase (“I am the Alpha and Omega”) is first found in Chapter 1 verse 8, and is found in every manuscr…[Read more]

Quote my explanation was intended for goodGood intentions are not enough…If the blind lead the blind they both fall into a pit.I did not want human rationalization to be the answer to my question.I simply wanted Truth.———–If your answer had been truth, scriptural support wouldn't necessarily be required.but since it was a rationalization,…[Read more]

If The Word of God is YHVH's self realization.The minute he knew he existed was the minute The Word of God came into being.——When do you think God first realized he existed?AlwayslolSo The Word of God was definately begotten of The Father.because it came from The Father.but don't liken spiritual begetting with human begetting,The Word of God,…[Read more]

I make it clear, this however does not support a trinity.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2010,14:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2010,08:47)Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 11 2010,15:50)One more thing, if the Holy Spirit is a person then He will be the Father of Jeus, and that is not so, because the Holy Spirit is the essence of God the Father…His Holy SpiritSo if the Holy Spirit is not a person then a thing or…[Read more]

Since i'm still getting many replies on this after I've gotten my answer I'll share my answer / truth with you all.————My dilemma started with trying to figure out what the difference with God telling people to kill others in the OT and today.I figured, if he is an unchanging God and felt it OK to tell someone to kill another back then,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2010,12:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 10 2010,15:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2010,15:38)Keith, so then you would say that the Father came into being from Jesus…just saying if you take the stand that nothing means absolutely nothing.KathiNo because verse 1 and 2 of John 1:1 makes it clear that Jesus was with the…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 12 2010,08:14)Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 12 2010,08:09)The Word of God is the highest possible perception of YHVH.YHVH is too great and to vast to be perceived by anyone, including angels or whatever you like to come up with.The Word of God is in fact, the perfect reflection of YHVH the unknowable.This is confusing because it…[Read more]