John 20 27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. 29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not…[Read more]

^^^^ I need to preview my posts more often, I make too many mistakes.Anyways I want to point out from WJ once more and emphasize.WJ wrote:God is not part of the creation therefore he is of a different substance or “Essence” than creation.”substance definition”the real or essential part or element of anything; “essence”, reality, or basic matterthe…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 14 2009,03:24)RM………………Trying the old Trinitarian shell game , “Jesus was that way when He was  a man , but now He is different”> Pure garbage. IMOpeace and love…………………..geneYou sound like an Islamist.All the due when you argue christian views is insult your ideas.That's it….They insult your idea,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2009,03:22)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 13 2009,03:20)Can you show me in scripture where “essence” is found to describe God, Jesus, or the Spirit?Thanks,MandyHi MandyThe Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his “being“, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided…[Read more]

That is like me asking you, if you can show me where it says Jesus was a Man turned into a God that we are to accept and worship.You can't because your belief is an interpretation of many verses in the scripture.As my interpretation is in the fact that…When the Devil tried to tempt Jesus, Jesus' response was…”Thou Shall not tempt your God”Why…[Read more]

Ok then maybe you believe as a trinitarian.The father is indeed the Almighty God…you can call Jesus Mighty God if you like, but the emphasis is that he was mighty God before coming to earth…and was made flesh.After his ressurection, he went back to being mighty God in Heaven.But remember, Almighty God, and Mighty God and the Holy Spirit are…[Read more]

Jehovah was a western Idea of combining the Constants of YHWH with the Vowels of ADONAI… and since YHWH in english is pronounced with a J..kinda like JHWH…Remeber Jehovah was never a NAME, it was and still is a Pronunciation.Kind of like he pronunciation of the word: Burywould beBaree

Ok so given that God is a Title…The father is called YHWH…his real name is not Jehovah…Jehovah was a western Idea of combining the Constants of YHWH with ADONAI… and since YHWH in english is pronounced with a J..kinda like JHWH…English translators came up with Jehova as a Pronunciation of YHWH…but no one knows the real pronunciation.…[Read more]

We ar ein complete agreement. WJHiBut if they are one being, how can they not be equal?I said THEY ARE equal, in essence.Not in Authority.So in your words > Spirit subject to > Son Subject to > FatherThat is what I mean by NOT equal in authority.So the Father sits supreme overall.

Amen, you must be Born-Again of the spirit to see heaven.I know there was a topic questioning the process of coming to Christ.I believe the method revealed to the Jews wasConfess > Repent > Be Baptized in the names > Obediance.During Baptism that is when you receive Jesus as your personal savior, and as he and peter were baptised in the water,…[Read more]

Couldn't agree with you more ^^^^As a trinitarian, I don't know what the actual “doctrin” describes as trinitarianism.But as i've stated time and again.Father, Son, Holy Spirit are all God.3 persons, 1 Being. kind of like the Spirit/Soul/Flesh of a Human Being.The Father sits highest in authority and calls the shots.The Son was used to make…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 13 2009,13:57)Marty!  Ask thinker if He is willing to give up His believe of the trinity doctrine?  I don't think so, not yet.  For that to happen Christ will have to come first.  Maybe we will not have to wait to long.Peace and Love IreneLet me ask a question to Anti-Trinitarians.If Jesus was a man that was exalted to be a God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 13 2009,04:09)RokkaMan…………..Why did Jesus say, the son of Man came (NOT) to do HIS WILL, (BUT) the Will of HIM who sent Him. If He's will and the one who sent hims Will  was the SAME He would have never said that right. Again “it is written in the volume of books concerning me , I have come to DO THY WILL O GOD”,  And w…[Read more]

BECAUSE JESUS AND THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE.Do you not read? Look at my signature.Scripture STATES that THERE ARE 3 that bear witness in Heaven.The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit….THESE 3 ARE ONE.So when you ask me, how can Jesus be God made flesh when scripture states there is only one God.My Answer is…Because Jesus and The…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 09 2009,02:54)Jn………We are to follow Jesus He is the way, Just read and believe what he Said is all you have to do and do what he did. “Not all who come unto me and say lord lord, will enter into the Kingdom but he who (DOES THE WILL OF THE FATHER”). NOT WHERE DOES HE SAY DO (MY) WILL.Jesus' will was and still is the same…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ Aug. 12 2009,08:26)RokkaMan, while I admire your obvious enthusiasm, I think looking for meaning in hidden Bible codes is like looking for meaning in the quatrains of Nostrodamus; the problem is everyone sees what they want to see and supporting evidence is subjective and interpretive in the extreme.  As for the Bible, as compiled,…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 12 2009,06:30)Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 12 2009,05:21)there is only one God and Jesus is His nameIf Jesus is the name of this one God then who was Jesus talking about here: Matthew 2746 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my…[Read more]

Bravo WJ and Thinker.WJ made a very clear point.In the Beginning, There was THE WORD. The WORD was WITH God, and The Word WAS God.How can the Word be WITH God and Also BE God.Because The Word is of the Essence of God, making him equal in essence. But is With God…having a seperate identity as The Son of God.This is the basis of Trinitarian…[Read more]

Evidence of DesignThe implications of this discovery are more wide spread than is evident at first glance.It demonstrates that in the earliest chapters of the Book of Genesis, God had already laid out His plan of redemption for the predicament of mankind. It is a love story, written in blood on a wooden cross which was erected in Judea almost…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 12 2009,06:42)RakkaMan!  I read you post and according to that you belief in  a trinity.   I that without proving it?  You give no Scripture.  However I do not believe in the trinity because of these Scriptures.Ephesians 4:6 ……” one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all.”John 14:28 by Jesu…[Read more]