Cathy don't think because of the catholic church believed in the trinity and you feel that now that you've found them to be a deceitful sect, that trinitarianism is false as well.One of the devils greatest powers is to mix truth's with falsehood to steer people off track.Fortunately trinitarianism isn't one of those things.So please don't condemn…[Read more]

Amen TheThinker, plus this is a lame subject that we should not have to go over with anti-trinitarians.It is littered through out the bible that Jesus was able to forgive sins. How else is he our mediator? What was his blood for?He claimed it himself, and many times did the jews want to murder him for it.That's why I didn't spend much time with…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2009,07:14)Hi katjoQuote (katjo @ Aug. 14 2009,15:07)You should really read these scriptures. Are you reading from a Kings James? You cant deny the scriptures, They tell us everywhere ,that God lives in Jesus .So you think that because the scriptures say that the Father lives in Jesus he cannot be God?Jesus says…[Read more]

Lol Thethinker…..Also want to point outTalking about being false!!!!!! Maybe you should study more to remember Scriptures. To tell you the truth I was like that too. But since I am reading more Scriptures it comes easier.Also if Jesus was divine when He waked the earth, He could not have died for us. He now however is divine. IreneIf Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ Aug. 14 2009,11:02)Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 14 2009,06:48)And the infinite can be temporarily finite. Isn't that the nature of the Human spirit bound to a temporary Body? And after we die, we are liberated from the Body to live in spirit?The Infinite Son who has always been with the father, “HUMBLED” himself to be bound to a finite…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 14 2009,09:13)Hi RM:I fail to understand why there has to be such a thing as the “trinity doctrine” when there are unambiguous scriptures that tell us that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the Living God(Matt. 16:13-17), and that the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit (1 Co. 2:10).This(the trinity) is a man made doctrine based on…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 14 2009,08:37)RM………why would GOd take an already perfect being and disguised  Him as a (real) man and tell us this Perfect (disguised) man was like us and expect us to walk and come to the full measure of the preexisting Perfect Being who may have walked perfectly for millions of years , So what would be the big deal if…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 14 2009,18:39)Quote (katjo @ Aug. 14 2009,15:56)hello! I think some people need to look at Colossians 1:15,16,17 again because Jesus is not the first born of all creation. He is the first born of EVERY CREATURE! Image of the invisable God. By him all things were created,that are in Heaven and that are in earth.All things were…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ Aug. 14 2009,15:56)hello! I think some people need to look at Colossians 1:15,16,17 again because Jesus is not the first born of all creation. He is the first born of EVERY CREATURE! Image of the invisable God. By him all things were created,that are in Heaven and that are in earth.All things were created by Him and for Him. And…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 14 2009,19:01)Hi Rokka,A quick respone.Quote When the Devil tried to tempt Jesus, Jesus' response was…”Thou Shall not tempt your God”Why would he say that to the Devil if the Devil was tempting the Son, not the Father???Please read this passage in context.  The devil is trying to make Jesus call on his Father to help him.…[Read more]

And Again Cato, Addressing your questions which mine are never addressed,”If Jesus was God how could he be tempted, have gaps in knowledge, have need of baptisim or could any gaze upon his countenance? What would his example be to the rest of us who are not divine? No, it make little sense.”If I tempt you to sleep with a woman, and you…[Read more]

BTW Cato, EVERYTHING a human can understand ABOUT GOD is paradoxical.Go research the definition of a paradox.2 seemingly contradictions that reveal a nonetheless “Truth”So when you say an infinite being cannot be made finite…you are right…it is a paradox….but in that, it is truth

Quote (Cato @ Aug. 14 2009,06:14)So what you say is that Jesus is the physical (in human form) manifestation of the Godhead equal in power and authority to Father and Holy Ghost, as obviously they are all facets of the same being in your view.  I assume here that in your view Jesus is not an avatar of the almighty or a demigod human/god hybrid…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 11 2009,04:30)thinker said to Nick:Quote We have one Lord (Sovereign) Jesus Christ. Yes or no!Gene replied to thinker:Quote Thinker………NO,  the LORD (GOD) said unto MY Lord Jesus Christ , sit on my side until (I) GOD< Make you enemies your foot stool. Interesting seem the FATHER is taking Credit  for it ALL.Gene,You c…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2009,05:16)Hi RokkaManQuote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 13 2009,12:36)So in essence he is equally God in the essence, without the FULL powers of the father.I look at God's essence as being more like fire, for God is a consuming fire. Jesus is the Baptiser in the Holy Spirit and “fire”.If you take two torches and light one…[Read more]

And to be honest, I am not good at pulling direct scripture off the top of my head, the best I can do for quick posts is to paraphrase common knowledge of the scripture.If you like I can spend the time to put together a bundle of scriptures that support Jesus' divinity and rightful place in the Godhead.The biggest Idea is that, if he was not…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 14 2009,03:30)Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 14 2009,02:43)Ok then maybe you believe as a trinitarian.The father is indeed the Almighty God…you can call Jesus Mighty God if you like, but the emphasis is that he was mighty God before coming to earth…and was made flesh.After his ressurection, he went back to being mighty God in…[Read more]

I use these examples because as a human being, we are all limited to comprehension.The human brain cannot understand phenomenons…so how can we understand The God who created phenomenons?So I choose to use human analogies to help understand The GodHead.H20 at different temperatures can be 3 different types of matter.It can be Ice, Water, or…[Read more]

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 14 2009,04:29)God Jesus and the Holy Ghost are all God then rokka manCorrect, they are all God.The Father sits highest in Authority and the other two are his servents.Just like My Spirit is in Authority over my Body and Soul.I can not eat even tho my body hungers.I can choose to be happy even tho my Soul…[Read more]

If I dip a cup into the Ocean and take a sample of the water.In my cup, isn't it the water FROM the Ocean?So in that cup, it is equally Ocean Water as is the Ocean itself.If Jesus CAME FORTH from The Father… and The Father is God.Then Jesus is equally God.BUT The ocean has waves and harbors great creatures of life.This cup of ocean water can…[Read more]