Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 14 2009,03:26)Don't know if this was answered, but there are two Genelogy accounts in the Bible for Jesus.One was his Geneology through Joseph the Other was Mary.One was to paint the geneology through the line of David, the other through the line of Humanity (going all the way back to David).Both of them when they get to…[Read more]

Don't know if this was answered, but there are two Genelogy accounts in the Bible for Jesus.One was his Geneology through Joseph the Other was Mary.One was to paint the geneology through the line of David, the other through the line of Humanity (going all the way back to David).Both of them when they get to Jesus, state two fathers for Joseph.We…[Read more]

The word was with God, was God, and was Made flesh.The glory was with God, was God, and was made flesh.Jesus is The Glory of God——————————————————-There are three that bear witness in heaven, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit and these three are one.There are three that bear witness in heaven, The Father, his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 23 2009,11:50)thinker………Indeed GOD is a Just GOD, and if Jesus did not turn the kingdom back to him who gave it, then Jesus would be stealing from GOD the FATHER , because it is GOD (IN) HIM providing the SPIRITS and THE POWER to obtain the kingdom in the first place. Jesus is only giving it back to whom it belongs.  You…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2009,07:21)Hi WJ, In my view the seven spirits are of the WATCHERS, the watching angels mentioned in DanielSo the seven spirits of God are his created angels? Wow, such blasphemy.

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ July 31 2006,10:50)Amen, Amen, AmenThe greatest experience in my life was when Jesus came into my heart. Nothing before or nothing after has come close as to when Jesus saved me from death as a sinner. And if a person does not know this, how can they be sure they are saved. How can they be sure they are born again.…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 23 2009,05:54)Jodi Lee said:Quote Jack you are truly mistaken, Let's start with this, Matthew 6:9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 23 2009,05:47)Thinker………..Obviously it is GOD (IN) HIM via (the seven spirits of God) with power,  subjecting the world to Him as well as His enemies. AS it says, The LORD (GOD) Said unto MY Lord (JESUS) sit on my right side until (I) make your enemies your foot stool. Looks like the FATHER is doing all the work right,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2009,10:34)Here is a snippet of writing I previously wrote in a debate with Isaiah, regarding John 1:1. (BTW, Isaiah is a self-confessed Trinitarian )===================================================================To start, please read the 2 examples below and guess which one is correct:1)a) In the beginning was the woman,b)…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 23 2009,05:37)Quote (RokkaMan @ Sep. 22 2009,13:11)Hello TT,      I went and looked up Isaiah 48, and read it from beginning to end, trying to put YHWH as the narrator.It appears that YHWH is the Narrator of the beginning, and Jesus doesn't appear until Verse 14.That is where YHWH declares his love for Jesus and th…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 22 2009,17:25)TO All………..Jesus does (NOT) Share the (SAME) position as the FATHER DOES, NOW or ever Will. Or why would He turn His KINGDOM over to the FATHER and BE SUBJECT to HIM?.  It is because He will rule by the (AUTHORITY) of GOD the FATHER, Not because HE IS GOD. GOD gives him His Seven SPIRITS with POWER  to e…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 19 2009,08:42)Jodi Lee said:Quote So you deny the scriptures that say that the Father created the heavens and the earth?Yeap! I deny that the Father created the heavens and the earth. According to the Father Himself the Son laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of the Son's hands. You cited Psalm…[Read more]

Amen T8

Also let me point on thing about TT's post.Even tho Jesus doesn't come into play by verse 14…Isaiah is an Old Testament Book….thousands of years before Jesus appeared on earth.So how does he have a voice in the OT?Well in the manner it was written, there was no transition of speakers…it is as if, God was speaking about what he will…[Read more]

Hello TT, I went and looked up Isaiah 48, and read it from beginning to end, trying to put YHWH as the narrator.It appears that YHWH is the Narrator of the beginning, and Jesus doesn't appear until Verse 14.That is where YHWH declares his love for Jesus and that he called and brought him to the people.Then Jesus takes over saying he was sent…[Read more]

LightenUp I like you're understand of the Trinity but one thing i'd like to clear up(seeing as how there is a bridge between your logic and the traditon trinitarians like WJ and TT)Is that Jesus and the Father are the SAME being.So when you say there is A most high God and a begotten God. Do not seperate themYou can only seperate their identity…[Read more]

Quote (eveh @ Sep. 16 2009,17:54)1 Timothy 5.21I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. If there were a Trinity composed of three co-equal, co-eternal “persons,” why would Paul charge Timothy by the “elect angels”…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 16 2009,18:42)And why is God as well as Jesus mentioned?That alone proves that God and Jesus are different identities.Uhh? Trinitarian view agrees with you.Same being, different identity…lol

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,12:28)Hi R, So God manifested AS His Son? But God was in him? Make your mind up. It is best to agree with what Peter said” you are the Christ, the son of the Living God”The Father didn't manifest himself as The Son.The Father manifested his WORD as The Son.The Word CAME from The Father, not as a created thing,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,12:31)Hi R, So he was not the God he was with. He was not another god.Perhaps he is the Son of God?No Jesus is The God he was with, he just isn't God The Father.Pretend my name is John.What you are asking me is like saying, So your skin is not you?No, my skin is not ME, but my skin is a part of me…so in essence…[Read more]