Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 28 2009,09:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 28 2009,06:50)Hi RokkaManQuote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,13:20)If Jesus willed himself to be less than The Father…then The Father would not be God…And there lies the fallacy of your theory.Jesus did will himself to be less than the Father“Who, being in very nature  God“, did…[Read more]

You confuse the Jesus WITH the law…Jesus and the law have two different purposes.Since mankind is unable to perceive good and evil…(being a receptor for both)…The Law is our moral basis for all our actions.Jesus' role was to provide salvation for the ones who belonged to the law but broke it, and to the ones who never new the law to begin…[Read more]

BTW the God of the Quaran IS The God of the bible…The religion's perspective of him is just different and incomplete…as is our understanding.But The Quaran's information does come from The Ancient Hebrew Bible…

It's funny you post that TT, because I just posted something to Lightenup about Shadows and Real Images…and how it helped me to understand God and Jesus' identity.To understand Jesus is to understand the law, but once u figure it out…you can bypass the shadow and go to Jesus.In the same way, when you figure out Jesus (who is the Shadow of God)…[Read more]

It actually happened when I read, Plato's allegory of the cave.And the one about the “line”It made me realize that Jesus is a shadow of God…as creation is a shadow of Jesus. If you get down deeper…My body is a shadow of my spirit…ectSo if u want to elevate to the real thing, you need to understand and take care of the shadows…Kinda like…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2009,05:45)Thanks Rokkaman,Interesting how I had a similar “lightbulb” moment.  So, what was it that you read or someone taught you that brought that “light bulb moment?”We now have very similar understandings and that is remarkable.  The only difference that I see is that you think Jesus was created and I say He was b…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2009,04:50)Hi Rokkaman,It is good to see you.  I asked you something in the “My eyes are open” thread and am interested in your reply.Anyway, I agree with you in that when we say “God” we should clarify what we mean.  When I say “Most High God” I am referring to the Father of Jesus and the source of all that is g…[Read more]

But we know that YHWH put all things under Jesus. If that is so Jesus is God of all things except the one who put all things under him…Is that not scripture?So disagreeing with me is also disagreeing with scripture.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2009,13:33)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 13 2009,11:02)Today a remarkable phenomenon has hit my understanding, which came through divine revelation.I asked God to show me and he did in a remarkable way.Is Jesus God?The answer is no, he is a reflection of God. Yet as the Sun shines in the sky, we experience it's rays.So as if…[Read more]

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Oct. 28 2009,03:34)why do we worship God and not Jesus then seing that He is GOD?Because Jesus is not God…if he was there would not be a seperation of character…We are to worship Jesus for who he is, and not worship him as he is YHWH.YHWH is to be worshipped as YHWH, just as Jesus is to be worshipped as…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 28 2009,04:09)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,08:56)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 28 2009,03:52)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 27 2009,08:17)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 27 2009,23:20)Also basically what Sabbath also refers to gates is also like, if you observe Sabbath you wont go to a restaruant and have someone cook…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,05:03)Hi WJ, You know how we in Christ are meant to do everything in his name then in whose name do you preferentially worship the Son of God?You don't worship Jesus in anyone's name.You worship The Father in Jesus' Name.Jesus is the bridge from Mankind to YHWH…you must cross the bridge if you are to get to…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 28 2009,03:56)Quote (georg @ Oct. 27 2009,08:50)Why would God want to say that the Sabbath is a sign between the children of Israel and then says it is for all.   That makes no sense.  Two times He did that.  We are under a new covenant in His Blood and grace.Luke 2:20 and Math. 22:36-40,Ephesians 2:8-9IreneWhy wo…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 28 2009,03:52)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 27 2009,08:17)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 27 2009,23:20)Also basically what Sabbath also refers to gates is also like, if you observe Sabbath you wont go to a restaruant and have someone cook for you or serve you because in doing so your being there makes them work. Or you…[Read more]

Let it be clear when you use the term “God”Do you mean YHWH, the supreme being of all things.Or title as in God of…to show supreme authority.Jesus is definately God of all things, but he is not YHWH the supreme being.If you use God exclusively for the Supreme being, then you cannot use it in reference with Jesus for he is not YHWH.Although being…[Read more]

Remember, The Gospel of Jesus Christ was FIRST for the Jew then the Gentile. No matter how you want to look at it, God is a Jewish God before a Gentile God. It is changed now, not by God's accord but by man's accord. The Jews let him down so many times that he now offers his gifts to any man that will receive.In that light, the ones who do come to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2009,13:41)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,08:27)bodhitharta, I'd think it blasphemy to love your neighbor more than Jesus, for if you love anyone more than Jesus…then you love this material world more than God's Word.That should not be so for any christian…we are to lay our lives down for our friends, but for…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 16 2009,08:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 16 2009,06:19)HiTT, Hebrews 6 reminds the saved of the foundation of entry into the kingdom of God and urges them to move on. But those who preach another trinity god have yet to go through the gate of God's Son.Seek ye first the kingdom and everything else will be added to…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,08:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2009,08:17)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,04:23)It also doesn't say, love your neighbor more than Jesus…It says love your neighbor as you do yourself…but clearly you are to love Jesus more than yourself.Loving Jesus more than yourself does not mean to love Jesus more than your…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2009,08:19)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 15 2009,16:13)Hi not3, Are you of the world?Are you part of the answer or part of the problem?Are you the educator of your children in how to look at these sorts of things?NHDo you ever have any encouraging words to say?Do you have an positive words to say?WJEven when you agree…[Read more]