Quote (Gene @ Feb. 22 2009,03:52)To All…..>I would like to start this topic off by is saying (THE) Law the same as when we say Law by it self in scripture. The definite  article does not appear in many places in Paul writing of Galatians and Romans and by removing this definite article does it effect our understanding of what Paul was saying.…[Read more]

Beloved, I agree with the rest as far as follow your own truth…If you honestly are seeking truth….ask and you shall received.On a side note I would like to point out…Jesus and The New Testament stood for salvation….A lot of people confuse salvation with earthly blessings…they believe if they don't pay tithes they will go to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2009,14:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,14:16)Hi BD, Who is talking of prayer here? You must be born again into the Son of God. Then the way to the heart of the Father God is open.Jesus said you must be born again he didn't say be born again into him did he?Where else would you be born into? The sinful world…or…[Read more]

No you're wrong…I can call them Father and Son if I like. That's what Jesus was referred to and that is written in the bible many times.So my calling YHWH The Father and Jesus The Son does not mean I believe Jesus is God (YHWH). The Christ is his son because he is annointed to be God in flesh. That is to mean, everything The Father “is” is…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2009,07:00)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26)Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord.God is in him but he is not that God.True worship is not bending the kneeNick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH.stop pickin on me, lolActually you haven't because you keep…[Read more]

Haha, when Jesus saves us…he saves us from death in our sin…The price for sins is Death.That is why Jesus had to die…believe me I would love to of replaced myself with Jesus in a heart beat. But I can't….Just as much as if I were on the cross he'd want to take my place instead…Someone had to die for the price of sin, that is God's…[Read more]

The actual word is Logos…which means divine discourse of the universe. Or God of the universe.In the beginning establishes creation.There was The Word…establishes Jesus existing as a messege.The Word was with God (Logos or discourse of the universe)And the word was God (WAS, the discourse of the universe).This means both YHWH and The Word were…[Read more]

Thanks for the long post but the difference between christianity and Islam, (I do believe that is what you study based on your various quotes)…Is that I follow Jesus Christ, the son of the everlasting almighty God.You follow a prophet who came after Jesus, who used Jesus' quote in regards to the holy spirit…(confusing the holy spirit with…[Read more]

^^^ wow God just smashed your theories into the ground, I must admit.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2009,05:00)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,03:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,15:47)Thanks Bo for your opinion.  I do disagree that the Son was created though.  All created things have a different nature from their creator.  A man has the nature of man, a tree has the nature of a tree, etc.  The Son however has a div…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 31 2009,04:24)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 30 2009,12:09)How about this, Jesus and YHWH are equal God's above creation. (Father giving everything to Jesus makes him an equal owner).But God is greater than Jesus…we know this because Jesus doesn't already posses anything, The Father gives things to him.So to creation,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26)Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord.God is in him but he is not that God.True worship is not bending the kneeNick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH.stop pickin on me, lol

How about this, Jesus and YHWH are equal God's above creation. (Father giving everything to Jesus makes him an equal owner).But God is greater than Jesus…we know this because Jesus doesn't already posses anything, The Father gives things to him.So to creation, Jesus and YHWH are equal God's (title).But only The Father is YHWH. With Jesus being…[Read more]

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Oct. 31 2009,03:55)these three are one not these three are seperate beings seeIf they were co-equal beings then this is polytheism and 3 gods. If they are the same being with a plurailty of manifestation…then we can recognize that “The Father” is the true source of that plurality…and that HE manifested…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 30 2009,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 30 2009,02:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,00:30)Hi LU, So we should not follow Jesus on this one but worship him as well as his Father/God?Nick,We worship him as we follow Him. His kingdom is eternal. Are you going to also have your own eternal kingdom? Or are you going to be in…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2009,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 30 2009,18:01)Bo,It says that He took on a body prepared for Him.  I don't think it was a created act but a supernatural reproduction act.  I know that I did not create my kids.  Creation of man happened in Genesis with Adam and Eve after that man was reproduced.  Mankind was cre…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,12:58)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,12:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,05:03)Hi WJ, You know how we in Christ are meant to do everything in his name then in whose name do you preferentially worship the Son of God?You don't worship Jesus in anyone's name.You worship The Father in Jesus' Name.Jesus is the bridge…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,15:47)Thanks Bo for your opinion.  I do disagree that the Son was created though.  All created things have a different nature from their creator.  A man has the nature of man, a tree has the nature of a tree, etc.  The Son however has a divine nature.  We know that someone that is begotten receives the nature of w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 28 2009,06:20)Hi RM, Where does it say the future home for men is heaven?Is that not another myth?Excuse me, the temporary home is heaven…the permenant is the New Eath…still doesn't take away from my point. Everyman shall be given according to his works. The law constitutes what's good and bad works.

Plus WJ and TT I strongly defended that very verse to prove the trinity. Who, being in very nature  God”, did not consider equality (he was equal) with God something to be grasped (held on to), “BUT MADE HIMSELF NOTHING”, taking the very nature  of a servant, being made in human likeness.  And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled hi…[Read more]