A spirit has to manifest in flesh to being a human being.It is my folly to say manifest as flesh, because a spirit cannot turn into flesh, it dwells in flesh.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:57)Hi RM, AS Flesh??Does it change the implication to say manifest in flesh?Nope =/

So who was manifested as flesh?And what kind of flesh?Funny how everyone likes picking and choosing instead of addressing the whole verse.—-Plus i'm not disagreeing that the son was justified….I'm pointing out that this verse is claiming God was The Son.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:53)Hi RM, Logic is not much help. God was in ChristOne verse doesn't cut it Nick….there are floods of verses contrary to your one verse.This is why many other religions say christianity contradicts itself.Can you reconcile the contradictions Nick?because I can. Through the wisdom God has given me.But can…[Read more]

Sorry JA, never got a response.——–What other man was attributed in the bible, OT or NT to never sin, and literally have God dwelling in him?With the power to forgive sins, fullness of God dwelling in him, to be the express image (not made in the image but actually BE THE IMAGE) Called Immanuel (God with us) called King of kings, Lord of…[Read more]

I'm going to bump this, because it frustrates me that fantastic points are made.Yet people like Nick Hassan, don't address them, ignore them…then go onto other posts arguing and debating to prove THEIR points as oppose to God's truths.

You make a silly claim Nick, then you keep quiet?

Sorry ED JOXY is scripturally correct.The Word of God was manifested as Jesus Christ the man.The Word of God is also known to be God himself both in the OT AND NT.Therefore, by simple logic.God manifested in flesh as Jesus Christ.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:32)Hi RM, Our God alone possesses immortality. He sent His Son.The same timothy says 1 tim 3:1616And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. You…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:25)Hi RM, WE have an immortal God. But you have a man?I'm sorry i'm not arguing with God.I'm understanding what it MEANS to be The Only Begotten Son of God.——–If I am a human, and I have a Son, the son so too is a human.If YHVH is God, and has a son, the son so too is a God.But in YHVH's case, has to be…[Read more]

I think this “unique” stuff is of the spirit of The Anti-Christ.

Quote (Oxy @ June 27 2010,18:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2010,17:21)Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,10:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2010,15:48)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2010,13:39)Hi MB, Are you not yet a son begotten of God?No Nick, for Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.mikeJesus is the only begotten of the Father, but we who have received…[Read more]

The reason it's so difficult to accept is because Jesus' deity is a paradox.Paradoxes are always hard to comprehend.He was both fully man and fully God.Whether you say God was in him or he is, doesn't change the implication.A lot of verses refer to his human form and goal as a human.A lot of verse refer to his Godship and his goal as God.Scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2010,20:17)Hi SF,The Spirit is of God and is one.The Spirit was given to Jesus=the Spirit of ChristThe Spirit proceeds from God and we can reach the heart of God and be one in that Spirit.Jesus is a manifestation of God.All manifestations of God were recognized to be YHVH himself.Whether it be The Word of God, or The…[Read more]

Also understand this…the meaning of people's names in the bible were just as important if not MORE important than the person itself.If it were translated fully from hebrew to english…The name adam would have been translated into Mankind.Then we wouldn't so much be looking at it from the person of Adam but rather as mankind as a whole.To tell…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2010,03:23)RM…..It doesn't say Eve was , that was my conclusion, But it certainly does say ADAM WAS A SON of GOD.Luk 3:38….> Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD.peace and love to you and yours……………genewell in the beginning God created…[Read more]

And your wrong again that sin is a learned behavior. We do go through a time of innocence when we are born, but when we fully come into our “free will” we CHOOSE to do whatever we want.God created us with the ability to sin, when he gave us free will.So it isn't learned, it was ordained.That is why he felt responsible for OUR mistake…and offered…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2010,03:11)Quote (JustAskin @ June 24 2010,09:12)Gene,The only sinful things in the world are man and the fallen angels.Man is born in sin 'and falls short of the glory of God'.Every man is in sin and needs to repent, even the one that has not yet physically sinned.I think there is a human desire to think of babies…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2010,02:54)Rm……All thing came from GOD, So you say Because Jesus had God's seed he is different then us , Well what about Adam and EVE are they also different because they had GOD Seed in them right, He was their Father,  in fact the scripture calls Adam the SON of GOD. Why would you think what GOD did to Mary…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 22 2010,10:35)Hi RM:You seem to want to use the words soul and spirit as being the same thing, and I do not believe that they are.  The soul in my understanding is the mind, the will, and emotions.  The spirit is the life that the person lives.The Father and the Son (Jesus) are two distinct souls.  They are not the same pe…[Read more]